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Ninja Frank
08-17-2005, 09:24 PM
I think it would be very helpful to take a look at what you did this summer in art, and get c&c on where to move to over the school year. Having a general direction always helps, and it's good to see in what areas you progressed. For me, I had to try really hard to learn and draw females. I spent a lot of time on it. So, anyways, everyone post ALL of your summer works, or a couple pieces that show the range (from beginning to end of summer.) I will start things off:

My summer art (http://www.ninja.oceansend.com/summer)

Remember, general critiques, hoping to move forward over this school year.

:squint: :tear: :eek: :crying:

SCHOOL STARTS TOMORROW!

Wyrmslayer
08-17-2005, 10:22 PM
I love your spongebob, Your doing very good with anatomy, Better then I am..

So I cant really crit much.

Manga Sims
08-17-2005, 10:43 PM
Hah. This summer I did pretty well.


Mechs (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4000/vit9yd.jpg)
Mechs (http://tinypic.com/6z6gcj.gif)
Cg
(http://tinypic.com/6z7brr.jpg) Antomy practice (http://tinypic.com/6z7crp.jpg)
Antomy practice (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8619/aaa5gi.jpg)
cg (http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/9364/bih8cz.jpg)
cg (http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/6227/no00029bu.jpg)
cg (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1360/sitting28hm.jpg)
cg (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4772/monkey2vg.jpg)

Basically, this summer, I focused mainly on CG (and speed CG). Rather than such cell shaded pictures, I tryed doing things on 1 layer (which gave things a more painty effect.)

I also worked on Antomy, and Mechs (my first time drawing mechs). I was supposed to start drawing alot of (fat/deformed)-(things/characters). Eh, I guess I'll start that next.

All in all, my summer goal (Cg practice [with speed]) was met.

:)

DN
08-17-2005, 11:07 PM
Well, this was the last thing I did in my figure drawing class last semester. Not my best work, but ok.

http://www.absentart.com/pics/2005/school/cl_20050602.troixyellow.jpg

From there, I've only posted a few things in my sketchbook this summer.

http://www.absentart.com/pics/2005/practice/AD17_Juggernaut.jpg
http://www.absentart.com/pics/2005/sketch/sk_20050630.png
http://www.absentart.com/pics/2005/sketch/sk_20050815.jpg

I did some other stuff this summer that I could probably scan, but just haven't gotten around to it. I haven't been too productive this summer, but I've still probably drawn more this year alone than any year prior, which I'm very happy about.

In general, I think I'm ok (not great) at rendering forms from reference or from models, but I still need to build up that catalog necessary to do stuff from memory. Most of my drawings that I just freehand still look like crap.

I've also already enrolled in a basic oil/acrylic painting class for the next semester that starts in a few weeks since I want to start painting a bit. I have absolutely no skills with painting, so hopefully that will get me moving along a bit more.

[edit]

Since I forgot to say anything about the stuff you guys posted, I guess both of you actually seem to have a more consistent style going than I do. I'm always just kind of winging it so far. You guys both have some really good stuff, but I would say that either life drawing or painting classes would be good ways to go next. Anything to force you to just practice more really, I think, since you both certainly seem to have good control over a pencil.

Basically, that's what I think for myself too at this point. I just need to practice to the point that I don't need as much reference to make nice looking stuff.

DawnFu
08-18-2005, 01:33 AM
I think I didn't practice enough this summer. But here's some of my sh*t (In chronological order I think):
Dante profile (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkbbs1.jpg);
Dante unfinished (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkdante1.jpg);
Infoman (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/infoman.jpg);
Jak step one (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkjak1.jpg);
Jak (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkjak4.jpg);
Zack step one (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkzack1.jpg);
Restart Zack (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkzack3.jpg);
Zack (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkzack4.jpg);
Demon (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkdemon.jpg);
My work (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkdawnfu4.jpg);
Practice (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkb1.jpg);
Jak Colored (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/jakcolored.jpg);
Demon 2 (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkdemon2.jpg);
Young Matier (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkmatier82.jpg);
Demon 3 (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkdemon3.jpg);
Motoko uncolored (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkmotoko.jpg);
Motoko colored (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/DawnFu/pkmotoko2.jpg)...
...my summer is still on the way till 29.
Comments on my summer:
-I must say I did too much "quicky" practice sketches this summer.
-I got Photoshop lastly so I did my first colored pics.
-Finaly I did my first attempts on comic this summer for the PK-Pub.

Oh! And I love your art Ninja Frank. Your style, I like it!! :)

"GOD gave Rock'n'Roll to you!!!" Peace!
-D.T.80ieme-

emmapeel
08-20-2005, 08:19 AM
comments first.

Ninja Frank: i like the faces on your characters. there's a lot of personality there. and you have a creative sense of costuming/detail and a solid grasp of coloring.

i do think you could work on line quality. it's an elusive ability that really has to do with confidence more than anything else. some people will say that non-sketchy lines are confident lines, but that's not especially true. long, smooth, strong lines do naturally seem more confident but the key to line quality is that every line is there for a reason and the viewer knows it. which, of course, means that as an artist you have to A) place every line deliberately (no hesitation marks) and B) do it boldly.

secondly, the anatomy of your figures is pretty sharp. but the proportions could still use some work. that's really just a question of practice and intelligent use of reference.

and thirdly, just be careful with your perspective and foreshortening. those two are always hard to do right and i think you're on the right track but some in depth study of foreshortening would probably serve you well. (heck, it'd serve all of us well to do an in depth study of foreshortening.)

Manga Sims: you've got a very neat style developing in your work from the figures to the coloring. and it's very consistent which means you're probably at a good place to really focus on style in addition to all the other stuff you normally think about.

i think you too need to work on line quality. for more on that look at my comments above for Ninja Frank. i will add that it seems you do a lot digitally as far as sketching which can make it much harder to achieve confident lines. one suggestion is to sketch on one layer then grab a big solid brush and grab those lines you really like on a second layer. the nice thing about working digitally is no light table is necessary to clean up. drawing shapes may help with getting firm lines with a tablet (just like drawing shapes in real media can improve line control.)

and i think it would be very cool if you tried sharper coloring. not necessarily cel-shading. more like using hard brushes and really coloring in detail. i like what you're doing now but it seems pretty basic and i think now might be a good time to move on to more complex stuff.

DN: eh. there's not much here to go on so i apologize if i sound less complimentary towards you. i'm just basing my comments on what you posted in this thread.

two things stood out. first is a lack of confident shapes. the lines are solid enough but you still seem to be hesitating about the actual shapes themselves. i usually find this comes from a fear of not drawing something correctly. particularly with life-studies/realism it's easy to get caught up in "is this correct?" well, that's all well and good but you have to make mistakes to learn from them. (don't i know that all too well.) so, maybe you should do more underdrawing, fill out the figures with really loose lines first to "claim your area" and then go back and refine the figure later. or do more with gestures to find the spirit of the shape. i'm not sure what will work for you but i think loosening up a bit will help.

and secondly, the figures seem a little off balance. do you sketch with your paper tilted? i tend to do that (unintentionally) and it throws everything off. i fixed that by drawing boxes on my paper that i sketch inside. it just gives me a reference that's easier to "see" than the edge of the paper. or perhaps there just needs to be a nice center line to ground everything before you start sketching.

i do think you're getting better. but i have a feeling that (like most of us adults with "real" jobs) you don't have the spare time to practice as much as some of the younger artists and that can be a set back, not to mention frustrating.

by the way, i really like the last sketch. there's something intriguing about it with that woman in the midst of all those buildings.

Dawn Fu: you've got some nice penciling technique and a good sense of character.

as far as things to work on. proportions is at the top of the list. you have a pretty accurate grasp of anatomy but you seem to have trouble putting the individual parts together. legs and torsos seem to be the most problematic. i would suggest exaggerating the legs as much as you can in sketches and doodles to try and break yourself of the short legs syndrome.

and, like i told DN, confident shapes. anatomy is key but the key phrase is "know the rules before you break them." i think it's time for you to start breaking the rules a bit. i know i just told you to work on proportions but the main idea is to know why you're drawing something a certain way. it's not just "the pelvis is shaped like this" but "i like this shape/these lines as a part of this particular character."

good work all four of you. i expect to see more great stuff in the future.

below are the links to my stuff. note that there's a big gap between April and July. i was moving and stuff and didn't sketch much so no work from that period. these were picked because they seemed to be the best of my work from that point. if you want to browse through the other stuff i've posted there's a thread in the sketchbook forum and also some more recent stuff in the B&W and AIP forums.

4.8.05 (http://www.geocities.com/garaigh/yukiko_2.jpg)
4.15.05 *nudity* (http://www.geocities.com/annasach_gra/maeve_1.jpg)
4.23.05 (http://www.geocities.com/garaigh/keira_1.jpg)
7.11.05 (http://www.geocities.com/sinful_st/girl_w_pet.jpg)
7.17.05 (http://www.geocities.com/garaigh/girl_w_pet_ink.jpg)
7.17.05 #2 (http://www.geocities.com/garaigh/girl_w_hat.jpg)
8.14.05 (http://www.geocities.com/garaigh/alice_pencils.jpg)

cheers!

e.p.

Ninja Frank
08-20-2005, 09:24 AM
I don't have much time right now, but thank you so much emmapeel. It means a lot to get detailed critiques with good suggestions. Thanks!

emmapeel
08-20-2005, 09:53 AM
I don't have much time right now, but thank you so much emmapeel. It means a lot to get detailed critiques with good suggestions. Thanks!


:)

no problem.

e.p.

bmore hustler
08-20-2005, 10:04 AM
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Steasaurus
08-20-2005, 10:06 AM
I'm ashamed... I've done pretty much nothing. :( everything I've done I've posted somewhere on here at some point and I haven't posted much artwork at all.

DN
08-21-2005, 04:07 PM
Thank you emma. I agree with most of what you said. I think I've gotten a bit cleaner than I used to be, but you're still right that I could be more confident in my lines and push it a little further. I'm patient though.

And yes, time is always a problem. The way I'm getting around that now is just by enrolling in one class a semester. Then, I'm guaranteed to do at least a little bit of work and having it scheduled makes it easier to justify to coworkers and friends. I think the figure drawing class from last semester helped me a bit.

Now, for your stuff. I remember some of your older stuff and I think you're definitely improving as well. The one thing I notice is that you're still sticking to a very distinct style (even though I like the style) and I've rarely seen you deviate from it. I liked the inked ones and this one in particular though where you tried experimenting a bit:

http://www.geocities.com/garaigh/girl_w_hat.jpg

I'd like to see more of that sort of experimentation. Maybe try out more realistic styles to practice shading techniques or start messing around with more coloring techniques just to expand what you're already doing, even if you eventually decide to stick with this particular style.

Maybe also start branching out into non-living things. I see you did the mirror in that last one, but start working on landscapes and architecture or just other inanimate objects to widen the things you can draw. That last one I did that you liked I explained in my sketchbook and came from the idea to have one animal, one mineral, and one vegetable in the drawing. Obviously, those were loose rules, but I was already thinking I needed to try out other things too besides just people.

MorFiuM
08-21-2005, 04:29 PM
you can see all my summer works on my gallery site....its on hebrow but youll see all the works i made this summer....
http://photos.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tsscript=guest.folder&path=200507072333247788&user=mangallery
tell me is it works ....if not ill post one by one....(i hope it works)