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justinpoon
10-03-2005, 03:20 PM
The following are pictures of materials that you must have if you are a beginner. In total, the cost is about 15$ Canadian. (Except the last picture, which i very much suggest.)

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justinpoon
10-03-2005, 03:21 PM
I dont know if you see the pictures.

Ill just list them here.

Pencil- 5/1$
Circle templates- 10$
Sharpie Ultra Thin Marker- 2/ 2.50$
Kneaded Eraser- 1.30$
Sketch Pad- 5$ for a decent one.
Ruler- 1$ for 5???
Ipod Shuffle (Optional)- 100$ (Any other music player)

TaeSeong
10-03-2005, 03:22 PM
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justinpoon
10-03-2005, 03:26 PM
edited.

hezzart
10-03-2005, 03:43 PM
I dont actually see the use of this thread though, as materials vary per artist depending on personal preferences and styles.

Emu
10-03-2005, 04:42 PM
Very nice list youve got there, but I can't afford the last one, I'm broke... :tear:

Negafen
10-03-2005, 04:50 PM
I disagree, circle templates, rulers, sharpies, music, none of those help.

Do an occasional page of practice strokes, and you'll be able to draw a perfect circle, and perfectly straight lines as often as you want. Using tools like that is a bit of a crutch. Basic motor skills really aren't such a big deal that you need them.

Also, if you want to encourage the left to right shift in active brain hemisphere, then music will just distract you and make it more difficult.

Just because these are the things you need, doesn't mean it's required, or even a good idea to use them.

I don't know how old you are, or if it's beyond you but you should read "Drawing on the right side of the brain" and consult with pro artists on what a beginner should do/needs before trying to say something definitive on the topic.

justinpoon
10-03-2005, 08:02 PM
Youre wrong about the music. The music should be low tempo, soft. Like Classical or jazz. (Just so you know, I wrote Optional.)


Circle templates and rulers are very useful because youre gonna draw maybe a lot of circles, like for abstract. Visual Art isnt all about manga.
Sharpies Thin Tip are a cheap replacement for a micron for inking.

Negafen
10-03-2005, 08:04 PM
Manga? I'm sorry templates are for manga.

Find a classically trained artist who goes "oh, lemme go grab my circle template so I can do this portrait.

Go over to conceptart.org and see what people think of your list hehe.

justinpoon
10-03-2005, 08:16 PM
I think theres a difference between a beginner and a "classically trained artist"

Negafen
10-03-2005, 08:57 PM
Way to misconstrue!

A pro-artist knows what will help a beginner better than you do.
And the pros say not to use crutches, they say don't use templates, and don't distract yourself in any way, and they do include music in the don't list.

Pros being accesible pros who answer questions, and books written by pros.


If you want to learn to draw, with crutches, just trace.

hezzart
10-04-2005, 12:37 AM
disagree with the music thing, you don't have too be completely undistracted. Music is sometimes good to get yourself in a comfortable state of mind and in you're creative flow, and it doesnt necisarily have to be jazz or anything relaxing. I love jazz, but I find that I don't draw well while listening to jazz. Anyway, this whole list thing is BS to me. All you essentially need is a pencil, paper and time.

Krieock
10-08-2005, 04:05 PM
In the way of paper, you can get Strathmore 400 series 9x12 Drawing pads ($5.95 retail) from ASW - www.aswexpress.com - for $2.75 as well as Canson brand and other types of paper like Bristol Smooth pads, for really cheap. Just buy alot when you do, because the shipping is a flat rate of $10

emmapeel
10-08-2005, 04:48 PM
nothing wrong with a good straight edge or set of french curves despite what Negafen may think. as you get better as an artist you'll get better at drawing straight lines and smooth curves. in the mean time do what professionals do and use a ruler.

when it comes to supplies though, the best rule of thumb is, use what works for you. there are basic things to consider trying out as you hone your skills but many artists use only very simple tools and acheive amazing results.

e.p.

justinpoon
10-10-2005, 06:03 PM
I think Thin Tip Sharpies aren't that good as a replacement for Microns, cause they make huge blots like permanent markers do.

johnway
11-16-2005, 03:33 PM
My question is, will the stensils and temperlate items actually help with keeping drawings consistent?

Everytime i draw a face multiple times intended to be the same person, i get very noticeable variations and it annoys me immensely. Plus i draw far too small. Bigger circles and i start to suffer.

incidently, i just draw on printing papaer using nothing more then 2 pensils a standard rubber (Or a torn in half tablet rubber) and a pilot pen for inking.

S.J.Nero
05-16-2006, 05:28 PM
ACTUALLY

Yes, I do need a circle thingy. But I don't own one right now. I won everything else on the list except a sketchbook and cirlce template thingy. I need one of those so badly. Oh, and my rulers broken. AAAARGH. Well, now I have to save up money for manga AND art tools...-_-" THANKS MAN. THANKS.

evangelion
05-16-2006, 05:48 PM
I think rulers are fine. i dont have money for oyur fancy ass microns either. I dont like the idea of using templates and circle makers( or whatever) Its like letting smething else draw for you. Might as well get a template for everything youre gonna draw.Next thing you know theyrell be nose templates and eye templates and hair templates

DaiKamonohashi
05-16-2006, 08:11 PM
No music when you draw? Geez... I BLAST music when I draw! XD

Templates? Try to avoid them. I sketch freehand and mostly save templates and curves for inking, so I don't screw it up (permanent ink, yo!).


Johnway, templates aren't really going to keep your work consistant. That's something you've got to work on yourself.

Zabur
05-17-2006, 01:40 AM
This thread is all lies. All you need it is dirt and a stick. Seriously, all you need is something to write on, and something to write with.

johnway
05-17-2006, 01:52 AM
I always use cheap paper. If i get fancy paper it tends to discourage using it. Its far too good to be wasted. So i use the cheapest (free) paper i get my hands on.

EDIT: incidently, how do the french curves work? They've always amazed me. Can they actually get you every single curve you've wanted in a drawing?

aido179
05-17-2006, 02:20 AM
yeah, i have always wondered about french curves too, they dont seem very universal. but in my oppinion, you can "draw" with any thing but if you want to "draw" to the best of your ability, you will need some small essentials like pencils paper and rubber. also you will need to have a good state of mind. i know i cant draw at al if im worried or distracted much.

Aruthuran
01-02-2008, 04:42 PM
Well....It isn't all lies.yes, you could draw in the dirt, but doing that won't allow you to seriously preserve your art. I do agree that in art, nothing is really needed, (things like dancing or singing are arts) but for most of us here, I think that in the case of us wanting to draw consistently and on the specific medium of visual art, you would probably need a little more than dirt and sticks.

I think music is a big preference, there are some that need and those that can't draw with any on. you probably don't need rulers or templates unless it's really technical, like cars and wheels and stuff like that, but even still, art has a thin line between technicality and realism, and abstraction.

Personally, I prefer abstraction a little more because to me, art is more than making really realistic looking things in our world. I mean, if you want those, then why not just take a photo?

Long post, sorry if there are any things I said that are inaccurate.

Downy
01-02-2008, 07:03 PM
Guys guys, all justinpoon was trying to do is offer some loose guidlines for some beginners who might be wondering what would be a good starting point for them to start drawing.

No need for some harsh discussions

Nack
01-09-2008, 09:28 PM
This thread is all lies. All you need it is dirt and a stick. Seriously, all you need is something to write on, and something to write with.

Yea, im with this guy, lol. Its not a "must" have... All you need is just a pencil and some papers, you dont have to go all out on the equipments. the quality of the drawing depends on you. Not some pricy pens and papers.

Dharc
01-09-2008, 09:36 PM
Bumped for great justice?