Badassest villain?

[pofo]

Very simple. I want to know who you consider to be the best villain in any manga, comic book, anime or other animated film. Please, don't just post a name, give your reasoning for thinking so, and also a screenshot or something could be nice since not everybody will be familiar with all villains. Keep it polite.

I'd like to nominate our beloved Legato Bluesummers of Trigun.
Reasons:
a) he's a subvillain who by far outclasses his boss (Knives) in sheer creepy awesomeness.
b) his singleminded determination to cause pain (I mean come on, he gives his life for 'the cause')
c) his copious use of innocent (and not so innocent) bystanders
d) even though he's as cruel and ruthless as any he manages a fair degree of personality and class.
bonus points for carrying that piece of iron fence on his shoulder.
http://web.telia.com/~u18510119/temp/legato.jpg
Legato Bluesummers

[Vava2109]

Come on, we all know him, Bowser. Offa mario!

Reasons:
One: although simple in plans(capture peach!) he is Bad cause he is just plain annoying. Comin back everytime when mario finaly gets to relax! That must be his master plan . . . to disrupt Mario's relaxation time . . . aha!
two: He's got 100000000 minions and don't know howto use em. He'd be more bad@$$ if he would just order the takeover of Mushroom kindom. They got like what, 30 troops? lol and mario
three: he, although tries, to be mean, grouchy and somewhat cruel. He's funny. You don't see tomany supervillains who can make you laugh and kill you at the same time with outstanding HP!(Papermario TYD)

Vava over and out

[DaiKamonohashi]

I vote Exar Kun from the Star Wars Saga (specifically, Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith, TotJ: The Sith War, and the Jedi Academy novels). I mean, IMO, he's the most badass Sith lord EVER. He starts the Sith War 4000 years before the birth of the Skywalker twins and that nearly topples the republic! Then, 4000+ years later, he returns in spirit form to wreak havoc on Luke's Jedi Academy!
EDIT: Also, he was the first to use a double-bladed lightsabre!
http://www.loresdelsith.net/universo/fuerza/sith/bin/exarkun.jpg

In second I vote The Lord of The Locust and henchman, The Hooded One, from Jeff Smith's Bone. They just rock... I'm not telling any more, you need to go read the comic.

[desade]

hmmm i dont have a screen shot, but i have to say dat robot sonic, or shadow (cant decide) are the most bad ass evil guyz ever. I mean They're both coooool looking, theyre fast, they both TRY and kill that speedy little demon sonic.
****SPOILER SPOILER do not read if you have sonic heroes SPOILER SPOILER****



Bonus points to both for their awesome appearance in sonic:heroes.

[Naota]

I thought this was an anime/manga discussion...
And! you guys are thinking too hard. I mean think simple....the three top villains' thoughts/actions:
1. Wants to take over the universe.
2. Kills for no reason.
3. Chuckles "hehehe" way too much.

What's a villain that matches that description? Any one from dragonball!!!! :laugh:

Hm, freeza is too wierd.
Cell is too civilized.
So, I'd say Baby, from GT.

Baby takes the cake! :dance:

[dfacto]

Most badass villain is clearly Agent Smith. Hugo Weaving made the whole Trilogy worth watching, which says a whole damn lot about Smith and Weaving's acting.

Aside from that I'd have to say Darth Vader, simply cause he's the original bad motha in black.

Oh, and this thingy from the "Wishsong of Shannara", by Terry Brooks. Forget what it was called, but the more damage it sustained the stronger it got. Thought that was the ultimate formula for baddassery.

[Mika]

Zex Marquis

1. Looks good in red
2.Pilots a Gundam Killer
3.Fallen Royalty
4.A Villan with a cuase
5.Just complex.

Seriously, hes the only villian I will ever root for in the gundam series

[desade]

Shadow Shadow Shadow!!!!!!!!!!

[Hiltz]

Vicious - Spike Spiel's former partner of the Red Dragon Syndicate from Cowboy Bebop

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Hiltz/vicious03.jpg


- He's a realistic villain - not having the idea of destroying/taking over the world
- He killed some of Spike's former friends like Mau and that fat woman
- He seperates his friends (Spike & Julia) and eventually has them killed
- Vicious wants to run the Red Dragon syndicate and he finally is able to do it
- Vicious is a criminal and is involved in the illegal "Red Eye" drug smuggling business
- Vicious kidnapped Faye Valentine
- Vicious and his group killed the former Red Dragon syndicate leaders
- His only weapon was a katana and his cold demeanor
- Vicious is refered to as a "snake" by the former red Dragon syndicate leaders
-Vicious is a traitor
- Vicious mocks Spike when he had the chance to kill him but instead had him shot with a tranquilizer dart
- He ruined Spike's romantic life with Julia
-Vicious wanted Julia to kill off Spike
- What better and most surprising way to end the series by having the main villain and most importantly main good guy kill off each other in a final show down?

[chain2treechick]

Luke and Jan!

-hellsing wouldn't be da same w/o em
-they're so cool looking
-they look awesome
-look how cool dey r
-they die quickly so u don't get sick of em
-they're there for ya in da back of each'n every book!
-Jan's abundant facial piercings are hideously awesome
-Jan is an awesome name
-Luke's got a pwetty big bow i his hair! ^-^
-they're so rediculously stupid they are almost funny
-Luke wears *spectacles*...which r sooo cool
-they're da living dead for goodness sakes
-they're just so evil
-dey look so cute together ^-^

[Steasaurus]

I'd like to agree with pofo and go with Legato Bluesummers...

........or principle Satan Toecheese from Kekkou Kamen heh heh heh
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/stemacdonald/pk-sketchbook/791084972610.jpg

[FigureFour]

Idiots.
The obvious answer here is Victor Von Doom.

Not only is he one of the toughest assholes ever, he's a super genius who built a nearly invincible flying robot battlesuit that shoots deathrays from it's hands and has all kinds of built in gizmos.
He feels it's his DUTY to rule the world, as all other humans are to pathetic to be able to rule well.

Also, he killed the tyranical ruler of his home country of Latveria and freed his gipsy people, and became ruler of Latveria in the process (he turns it into a peacefull paradise through his just lawmaking and harsh enforcement)

Oh yeah. He's a wizard too.

http://www.wilholden.com/Dr.Doom.jpg

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/b/mshdr.htm

For a little more Doom.

[Steasaurus]

*twiddles his thumbs until fantastic four*

[FigureFour]

You know that movie will be terrible right.
They managed to make Doom look lame. And that's practicly impossible.
And if they can make DOOM look lame, think about how Mister Fantastic will look!

For christ sake, I could have cast a better Fantastic Four with a rock, a can of lighter fluid and a Stretch Armstrong doll.

[inugirl_8872]

sesshomaru from inu-yasha, there are others but this is the baddest of the baddest i can think of right now.

1. he'd kill anyone for his own reasons and not help people unless it had to do with his one disire which isn't ruling the world, it's to be the greatest demon and the most powerful demon ever.

2. he got complete control over his emotions basically

3. he's demon

[FigureFour]

Sweet mercifull Jesus!
No wonder you have to turn to the internet for conversation!

You sure make one hell of a first impression.

[Gaara]

Sesshomaru is badass, that's true.

Vicious is also a badass.

Scar from FMA is badass too.

[BluesBabeofDoom]

They don't have to be Japanese comics do they..? Cause I'd say its the Joker. Hands down. He is hilarious and full of life, yet somehow ominous and spooky... I like the fact that he almost can't stop smiling, even when he's getting his arse beat by Batman he's grinning. And Harley Quinn. Need I say more? When they were animated they brung them to life so well that I really could get into the fights between Batman and Joker. Have you seen the flashback scene from Return of the Joker, the best animated Batman movie ever made? He was crazy. If he was real, of course, I'd be terrified of him, but as long as he sticks to ink I am a devoted fan...

Manga and Anime... I don't know, really. I don't watch or read Japanese stuff as much as most people on anime forums. I just like the style.

[dfacto]

I'd say Scarecrow is better than the Joker (theoretically). There is something really creepy about his concept, not so much about the exectution though. If they were serious, the Scarecrow would be the coolest villain hands down.

Bane is pretty cool too! >.>

[Snowfox]

Since I'm tired and can't think of a better one: I think Legato is one of the best villains, simply because of one of his lines, "His mere exsistance causes me undue irritation."

[Steasaurus]

You know that movie will be terrible right.
They managed to make Doom look lame. And that's practicly impossible.
And if they can make DOOM look lame, think about how Mister Fantastic will look!

For christ sake, I could have cast a better Fantastic Four with a rock, a can of lighter fluid and a Stretch Armstrong doll.
hehe I wasn't expecting much from that movie to be honest (I'd need me a silver surfer in it to even consider it being any good) I was just trying to keep this thread alive a little longer... I like bad guys so I wanted to see which everyone thought was the badassest lol

Western wise my fave bad guy would have to be that nightmare bloke from the dreaming... the one with dentures in his eyes... though he is sort of a good guy as well I guess.

[Gaara]

http://img.penny-arcade.com/2005/20050124l.jpg

[Steasaurus]

lmao... Jessica Albe is too sexy to be an "invisible" woman if you ask me. There's a mistake the movie makers made right there.

[Snowfox]

You know the script is only going to call for her to be invisible like, 5 seconds of the entire movie. When she breaks her foot trying to kick Dr. Doom in the balls.

[FigureFour]

The Corinthian!
He was pretty wicked cool. And even if he may have done his job, he was certanly a bad person.

[dfacto]

lmao... Jessica Albe is too sexy to be an "invisible" woman if you ask me.

Hell no man, she can do "invisible" things! The possibilities are endless! *wink wink, nudge nudge*

(yeah, I dunno what I'm talkin about either)

[Cruiser18]

I liked Folken from Escaflowne. Although he wasn´t a complete badguy, he still gave it a good shot with his aim to capture escaflowne and seemingly reluctancy to stop Dillandeu every time he tried to kill Van.

[pofo]

I was always fond of Folken *glances to avatar* much better king material than Van if you ask me. He's got vision, brains and style and always keeps his cool while Van's only got angst, anger, indecision and sleeveless shirts. I don't consider him so much a villain as a tragic hero though he gets a major villainy bonus for burning his home country. Bit much on the goth end of things.

[altrodesi]

knives off of trigun is a badass.:)

[pofo]

Fact remains that he lost to Vash, while Legato accomplished everything he set out to do... I don't think that his plans involving his own death counts against him ^^
Knives is scary in the way a big rabid dog is scary, lots of brute strength and insanity gives him great potential for violence. But there's nothing really creepy about him.

[FigureFour]

knives off of trigun is a badass.:)
Could you for once contribute more then a single badly punctuated, poorly structured, misspelled sentence that's barely relevant to the conversation?

[Aires]

Le Crusei. From Gundam Seed.

Besides being a bad ass pilot. Hes a cold calculating bastard under the guys of an aloof commander (warm, accomindating)

He doesn't give a rats ass about humanity and sees himself above it.

Not to mention the fact that he's borderline on the mental stability area

Still don't agree, think Zex as a mental case

[FigureFour]

Do you mean "guise"?

And while I'm talking grammer, "Not to mention the fact that he's borderline on the mental stability area" is a horrible sentence. I think it would have been much better if you said "He is mentaly unstable". Or even "borderline in the mental stability area". At least that would have been correct.

[Aires]

Fine I'll bone up on my ENgrish

I'm on the borderline of consiciousness myself nigthy night

[chain2treechick]

Since I'm tired and can't think of a better one: I think Legato is one of the best villains, simply because of one of his lines, "His mere exsistance causes me undue irritation."

yay. dat episode was just on last night! **frolicking wit da remote** la la dee da dee la lala!


...that was random i'm terribly sorry.

[Fiend]

Pyramid Head from Silent Hill 2, The Boss from Metal Gear Solid 3, Nohman from Anubis: Zone of the Enders, Ridley from Super Metroid, The Queen from ICO (Note: Best boss battle music EVER), and Muro from Oni, despite being a cliche'd and generic anime villian.

[clintrussell]

The baddest villian of all time would have to be Plankton from SpongeBob Squarepants.

j/k :laugh:


I would have to say Doomsday

1)Looks frickin awesome with all those spikes coming out of him.

2) Almost killed Superman. Wait i think he did.

3)Causes total destruction where ever he goes.

[Snowfox]

I'm just so bored of all those 2D villains who want to destroy everything they come in contact with for some ambiguous reason. Rawr, I beat you up because me can!

[Vava2109]

tch . . . bowser still beats em all still . . . he can play tennis! Now how many of YOUR supervillians/Bad@$$eds villains can do that?!?!? i don't think very many . . . Vava over and out

[Jeanox]

ermm..

I'd have to say the Great Mighty Poo?

[Hiltz]

Albert Wesker from Resident Evil.

The guy's so sinister and slick you don't even know what the heck is up his sleeve. Heck, he's more scary than any of the zombies.


The stereotypical villain = Skeletor.

[Cruiser18]

I don't really think of Rau Le Cleuse as a major villain. Sure he gave some major help here and there to bring the war to it's ultimate climax, but it was always Blue Cosmos and Patric Zahla who was the fanatical war mongers.

But Interesting he was. And his preaching in the end sure gave some material for afterthought. His Providence Gundam was perhaps just a bit too overbeffed with all those drone guns.

[Hiltz]

He was just obessed with killing people lol,a soldier gone mad.

[Gaara]

Achilles from Beans side of enders game was a pretty badass villian. He actually had reasons for wanting to kill people.

Most villians don't have alot of depth it seems.

[Steasaurus]

the best ones are the psychotics that don't have any reasons behind them or hte ones that don't know or care why they are doing things...

[chain2treechick]

OMG can't believe i didn't think of it.
LAUGHING MAN is DEFINITELY DA BEST VILLAIN EVER!!!!!!!

[FigureFour]

Very simple. I want to know who you consider to be the best villain in any manga, comic book, anime or other animated film. Please, don't just post a name, give your reasoning for thinking so, and also a screenshot or something could be nice since not everybody will be familiar with all villains. Keep it polite.

If you aren't going to read the entire thread before posting, at least read the first post.

[Hiltz]

Laughing man is just a super hacker with a political message involving Cyberbrain Syndrome and micromachines. The coolest thing he does is when he hacks the eyes of cyborgs. :)

[FigureFour]

I was talking more about the last two pages then just that last comment.

Well, MOSTLY about the last two pages, and a little bit about the board in general.

[Lexar]

http://www.tebeosfera.com/Obra/Tebeo/Norma/lucifer19.jpg
Lucifer is by far the most bad-ass of all villains. He even gets his own graphic novel spin off series.
Now as for the reasons for being bad-ass,

He actually creates a universe of his own, an actual galaxy and planets and life and all that.
Is the most powerfull being of everything (same universe as batman and superman for example, but also more powerfull than other gods from other pantheons, probably even stronger than death, since he's more powerfull than destiny or dream) other than his father, the god of the covenant.
And he's always the smooth operator, being one step ahead of the rest.
He has his own classy studio, in the middle of LA, where he plays the piano and tells people fortunes they don't want to know. And when he does interact with humans, he never lies and always keeps his word, but interprets it in such a way that pretty much always, people get out of the deal worse than before.

[FigureFour]

I have to agree with you there.
But he was much better in Sandman then in his spin off (But that makes sense, who can compete with Gaiman?).

The problem is, I have a hard time calling him a Villain.
In fact, I think I tried (clumsily) to raise the same point when the Corinthian was mentioned. Sandman really doesn't have any villains.

[Hiltz]

Some more bad-ass villains

Block Heads - Gumby
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Hiltz/blockheads.jpg

I don't know about you but as a child watching the Gumby cartoon series these twin blockhead brothers scared the crap out of me with their angry faces and violent obessions to hurt Gumby and his friend Pokey,those clay bastards.

Trevor GoodChild - Aeon Flux
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Hiltz/trevor_sm.jpg

The dude is a total freak. He's a dictator and controls a whole city or country or something but the point is within his controlled area he dominates it like a god and has disturbing weaponry defense systems that can cut off your limbs among other body parts and inject you with needles with god knows what they are filled up with. Trevor has several sexual and disturbing fetishes, he's a distinguished pyschopath, backstabber, and has a thing for bondage and foreplay with the one and only Ms. Aeon Flux.

Hexcidecimal - Reboot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Hiltz/hexadecimal_sm.jpg
Does anyone rememeber her? With a scary face like her's how couldn't you? Even more freaky than her masked face was her evil laugh. She has a rather bad sense for fashion but she is one scary ass female villain in my book.

[Alucard1515]

Yeah, I'm with FF.

I definitely wouldn't call Lucifer a hero in that series, but he's hardly a villain. He never goes out of his way to do anything particularly evil.

[FigureFour]

Not only does he not do anything evil, I can respect everything he does. Even when he trys to hurt Morpheus, you can respect him.

[Wyrmslayer]

>>the best ones are the psychotics that don't have any reasons behind them or hte ones that don't know or care why they are doing things...<<

Watch Hostage, there is a guy just like that in that movie.

Hostage is a good movie, its really sweet lots of random killing and badassery.

[Hiltz]

If the villain has no depth to himself/herself then I have no feeling for the villain, simple as that.

Killing a lot of people is cool in all but it doesn't do much in the way of bringing out the true evil nature of a villain when there isn't really much to know about them personally.

Naturally, if the viewer/reader can't relate to the character then there's nothing there to work with and sometimes getting know know them on an individual level can prove to make them even more sinister and haunting than the evil actions they perform.

[Wyrmslayer]

Well in the begining you think hes normal, just sitting in the car.

Then later you find out this guy is REALLY ****** UP.

[pofo]

I agree with Hiltz, a villain needs depth. The best villains in my opinion are ones where I can recognise part of myself. Taking the example of Legato again; on a purely intellectual level his goal (to kill all humans) is understandable. If there is such a thing as objective good, I'd say the world would probably be better off if there were no people around. But Legato takes this reasoning to heart and lets it affect him on an emotional level and that's what makes him scary.

[Lexar]

Lucifer is only interested in his own cause, all his actions are about himself, he even shuts down hell because he doesn't feel like running it anymore, and he vows to kill the main character. As close as it'll ever get in that series to a villain.

Also, to be honest, I like the spin off series better. Less emphasis on all the other pantheons and creatures and closer to milton's paradise lost, with the war in heaven and all that. And also very well written.

I'm not too sure about this, but I think the hellblazer series are in the same universe as sandman, with constantine being in one of the books, and I think he's a bad guy over there.

[FigureFour]

All of DC's comics take place in the same universe.
So yes, Constantine faces off against the same Lucifer.

You know, I could picture those two getting along.

[Alucard1515]

All of DC's comics take place in the same universe.
So yes, Constantine faces off against the same Lucifer.
Well, not ALL of them. Hellblazer, Lucifer, and Swamp Thing are Vertigo titles and are part of the main DCU, but they don't usually interact too much. Most of the other Vertigo books are just self contained books (Y the Last Man, Preacher, etc).

Lucifer is definitely a part of it, since he was spun off of Sandman, and Sandman had a ton of appearances by regular DC characters. Constantine first appeared in Swamp Thing before it even became a Vertigo title, and back when they crossed over a lot more with the regular DCU characters. I've never read Hellblazer, so I don't know how they depict Lucifer and all that, but it's supposed to take place in the same universe.

[Snowfox]

I love your guys' knowledge of comics... It's seriously, orgasmic.

[Vava2109]

amazing, im not a comic geek though so i dont care really(im not calling anyone out there a comic geek im just sayin I dont own many so their not what i read all the time((to the nintendo power magazine! lol)))

[FigureFour]

Good point Al.
I forgot about Preacher.

As for Lucifer interacting with Constantine, I have read a fair amount of Hellblazer, and haven't seen the two come together yet (Although I'm sure it would be fun. I can almost see them getting along.) but he does meet several of Hell's other prominent denizens. Agony and Extacy definatly make an appearance, and I'm fairly sure Azazel or Baelzebub was there too.

[Aires]

I am so going to interject on downplaying le crusei. compared to the other warmongers in the series, he was the most dynamic.

Chairman zala's drive was revenge for the death of his wife, the other one just gave off as a superiority complex.

Crusei wasn't mentaly unstable, but he had an abstract veiw of humanity due to his background. He was created in an attempt to prolong his own father's life, a child of greed and fear of death.

He murdered his family in disgust.

He also had a drug dependincy which made him more real than the other cast. He was more than just the typical homicidal soldier. Thats why he is a notch above the rest including zex and viscious

[Lexar]

At the end of the sandman series, john constantine and lucifer are guests at some kind of... err... gathering, amongst others, like also batman and superman.

[FigureFour]

Well . . .
If I had been standing next to you, and you had said that out loud, and someone who hadn't read Sandman was in the room, I would have punched you in the face.

Yeah, I'd consider blatantly giving away the ending to be spoiling too much.

(Seriously, edit that out.)

[Tanalius]

Slade/Deathstroke from Teen Titans
http://www.dcsecretfiles.dreamers.com/deathstroke2.gif
http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/deaths.gif

Reasons
1. He has a badass attitude and a code of honor
2. Has one eye
3. Beat up batman (should I say more?)

Slade is a cocky sarcastic mercinary who has a grudge with the titans. He in my opinion is the best villian ever.

[Snowfox]

He is portrayed very well in the cartoon. I love watching the episodes with him in them.

[FigureFour]

The best villain ever because he doesn't like the Teen Titans?

It takes a lot more then picking on some kids to get you into the same league as some of these people here.

I mean, can he really be a better villain then Lucifer?

Or even . . . DOCTOR DOOM!?

[Aires]

Slade does have the creep factor but hes pretty much a nobdy

[Tanalius]

Must I repeat? He beat up BATMAN! Mua ha ha ha slammed a bookcase on him and brawled with him on top of a skyscraper, slammed him through the window and alot more. And he picks on them beacuse they killed his son.

[Aires]

The joker can take on Batman, whats the point?

[Tanalius]

But the joker always fails. Slade won. If slade wanted to he could have killed him but he did not want to. The Joker wants to kill batman and always has the chance but has to do a stupid showcased death and cant just beat the crap out of him like slade did.

[Snowfox]

Slade is cool.

Plus that's bunk to say that a villain needs the power of the universe itself in order to be recognized as a good antagonist.

[FigureFour]

The Joker beat the original Robin to death with a crowbar.
Please don't tell me he's not badass.

[Lexar]

edit'D!!!11

Okay thinking of other bad guys, m. Bison comes to mind. Flying across the screen like that, awesome!

[Alucard1515]

As for Lucifer interacting with Constantine, I have read a fair amount of Hellblazer, and haven't seen the two come together yet
Well, Constantine was in some early issues of Lucifer, and he was also in Sandman, which has had quite a few regular DCU characters in it. Either way, it's pretty much established that they're in the same universe. Now, whether the writers pay much attention to that fact or not is another story. Considering what's happening in the Lucifer book, I'd say they follow that rule pretty loosely.

The Joker beat the original Robin to death with a crowbar.
Please don't tell me he's not badass.
He beat the second Robin to death. Dick Grayson had already become Nightwing when that happened.

And Deathstroke is pretty bad ass. Not being a huge DC reader, I've only really seen him in the comics once, but he almost took out like 6 or 7 members of the Justice League by himself. He only lost because someone STABBED HIM IN THE EYE with an arrow, and he freaked out. They stabbed him in his missing eye, but still... ouch.

[Eiyuu_Kou]

Alot will probably disagree with me, but I think Vegeta from DBZ.

[Vava2109]

Nope, Bowser beats em all still lol

[Kwiix]

I thought Legato was a good bad guy. Anyone that can play with your mind to the point where you put a gun to your own head and blow it off is a badass. Heh...

[TheOne]

Akuma or M. Bison in my opinion.

[Hiltz]

If you mean by "good" that Legato was good at being a bad guy then I also agree.

A badass villain with a sweet tooth.

[Ricey909]

I Would Say Shang Tsung Of Mortal Kombat

[FigureFour]

Wow. Someone else who didn't read PAGE ONE OF THE TOPIC!

It was specificly requested that you say MORE THEN JUST THEIR NAME. You have to tell us WHY they are so badass. And provide pictures of their badassness if you can.

[Lexar]

Indeed Vegeta is pretty cool too. Close call between Vegeta and Lucifer here. Wow that would make an awesome cross-over.

It would even be a close call to see who is more powerfull, since they both can destroy entire worlds with their fingers, litterally.

[FigureFour]

No It Wouldn't.

[Lexar]

Yes. It. Would.

Awesome + Awesome = Super great!

[Snowfox]

I don't know about awesome, but it would at least be interesting.

[FigureFour]

Yes. It. Would.

Awesome + Awesome = Super great!
Your math is correct, but you incorrectly assigned a value there.

Lucifer+Vegeta=Stupid as ****.

Besides, if they did fight, it would be very short. It has been explicitly stated that Lucifer (as seen in DC comics) is the second most powerfull being in existance. He chalanges and defeats gods. He has said that he could wipe out all the deamons in hell himself, likely without even expending any effort. It has also been explicitly stated that the most powerfull being in existance isn't Vegeta, in both Dragonball and in Lucifer's comics.

So not only are you bringing down an awesome character by comparing him to a shitty one, the shitty one can't even put up a fight.

[Lexar]

No that's not entirely correct. In the dragonball universe, Vegeta is more powerfull than the respective lord of hell, dabura. In fact he is also more powerfull than the gods in his universe.

And lucifer lost to a deck of cards, and of course lost to michael, and had to trick an angel to win a duel, so he's not all that uberpowerfull when the right conditions are met.

[Snowfox]

No, an awesome match up would be Unicron from Transformers vs. Galactus from the Marvel Universe. ;3

[Aires]

If you really want a badass show down

The Joker vs The Green Goblin.

Sure there are more dangerous, world destroying villains, but you have to ask yourself.

Would you really want to see either of these guys in a dark alley?
These guys are just insane killers with a twisted grin.

[Azmodeus]

Magneto will always be the greatest villian ever. Sry FF, all the gizmos in the world wouldnt save Dr. Doom for the wrath of Magneto.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/SinWraith/magneto1.jpg

And this was adimantium, just think about what he'd do to a man with full metal armor filled with electronic crap.

THIS IS MAGNETOS BIO (http://www.geocities.com/marvel_villains/) (yeah I got lazy, WHAT!? plus you should already know who Magneto is) I win :laugh: (at least in my own mind)

. . . I dont think I'm gonna use those smileys ever again

[pofo]

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Yes! We've completely forgotten about Brain from Pinky and the Brain! While many villains are more powerful and have better ideas, they don't come up with a new way to take over the world every single night!
Besides he's got a cool voice.
http://web.telia.com/~u18510119/temp/brain.jpg

[Snowfox]

Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Yes! We've completely forgotten about Brain from Pinky and the Brain! While many villains are more powerful and have better ideas, they don't come up with a new way to take over the world every single night!
Besides he's got a cool voice.


You sir, are a saint.

[FigureFour]

I actually spent a long time debating how exactly a Doom vs Magneto series would go.

Obviously, Magneto has the edge to begin with, using his magnetic powers to manipulate Dooms suit (presuming it's magnetic) and using Doom as a puppet in his own schemes.

However, Doom is a brillient scientist, and a resourcefull bastard. It's only a matter of time before he secretly develops some bizarely improbable anti magnetic-field.

At that point, the shit goes down. Doom is of course PISSED, with a capital everything, and Magneto's throwing down, hurling cars and colapsing buildings at Doom. Of course Doom isn't going to stand for that, and he's countering left and right with energy blasts and his force field.

However, once Doom can't be directly affected by Magneto's powers, he definitly has the advantage. And it's only a matter of time . . .

Sorry about that rant, Doom and Magneto get me excited.

And yes. Please never use those smilies again.

[Hiltz]

I loved that show.

Brain was a highly resourceful lab mouse. Although, I don't recall him ever successfully taking over the world so he is moderately evil.

"They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
One is a genius
The other's insane.
They're laboratory mice
Their genes have been spliced
They're dinky
They're Pinky and The Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain.

Before each night is done
Their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun
They'll take over the world.


They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
Their twilight campaign
Is easy to explain.
To prove their mousey worth
They'll overthrow the Earth
They're dinky
They're Pinky and The Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Narf!"

[Azmodeus]

Awesome, though indeed one of many probabilities.

I wouldn't even imagine him leaving Doom alive long enough to use him. Doom wouldn't last the initial attack to save his poor little gipsy people from the inevitable death Magnus would insure.

Though we may never know the true outcome until Marvel gets thier act together and asks me what I'd like to made into a Blockbuster movie.

Something they really should consider:
Wolverine/Punisher/Ghost Rider: Hearts of Darkness - this would make a badass movie.
Three badass heroes trying to take town Blackheart for spilling the blood of the innocent.

[FigureFour]

Yeah. That came out of many long games of Hero Clix.
If you love super heros, you should be playing that game.

[Krieock]

I figured that someone by now would have known:
Legato, Agent Smith, Vicious, Lucifer, and every other evil villian have nothing on:
MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE
SKELETOR
http://img260.echo.cx/img260/8498/skeletor8fk.jpg
Reasons:
He's friggin' Master of the Universe!
He sits on a throne made out of bones!
He has the best wicked laugh ever!
He's a GREEN SKELETON! With sexy bulging muscles!
He invented saying "Meeeaaah!"
He has witty comments like, "You'll never defeat me, He-man!!" and, "Meeaah!! Battlecat!"
He has a magic staff with a rams skull mounted on top - how much more symbolic can you get?


Lol - this is just for kicks:
http://www.sactosaurus.com/images/skeletor.jpg
http://www.io.com/~mdahmus/volleyball/aussies/2002/ReindeerF_skeletor.jpg
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~aray/skeletor.jpg

[Azmodeus]

Skeletor . . . he's master of something, but definitely not the Universe.

. . . anyways I heard he was gay ( . . . not that there's anything wrong with that. *Whew* dodged a bullet there).

[FigureFour]

How could a skelliton be gay? Or have sex at all. Presumably, he doesn't have a dick or an asshole, and he definitly doesn't have lips.

[Krieock]

Gay? Don't let the 'Oh Be Nice' image fool you - Skeletor is a hardcore-hetero-hurricane if I've ever seen one.

[Azmodeus]

Okay, okay so Skeletor isn't gay. BUT, i'm gonna call you out on him not having a shlong or an A-hole. He supose to be depicted as a man skeleton, but as illustrated in the cartoon series he has flesh and muscle. Yeah that's right I said it, our little Skeletors got meat on his bone . . . uhh bones. Then again I'm not willing to look up his skirt to find out what he has or doesnt have. To me he's just a muscle body with a skull head thats unable to defeat HE-MAN who is really the MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

[Lexar]

Let's not forget Trogdor the burninator.

[pofo]

that first skeletor picture clearly called for something more:
http://web.telia.com/~u18510119/temp/skeletor_vs_rubik.jpg

[FigureFour]

I always assumed that those muscles were just a body suit he wears because he's ashamed of his scrawny physique.

[Krieock]

HATERZ!!!
Lol, I was just kidding around - Skeletor is a pretty queer char.
My 'real' pick would have been Sony Wong from RODTV :)

[Tanalius]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/137750 - All I have to say on skeletor.

[Azmodeus]

OMG!! hahahaaa I totally forgot about that song. It was made by CKY (Camp Kill Yourself)/Bam Margera's old crew before he made Jackass. The original video was friggin halarious.

Thnx Sen, you've finally ended this IS SKELETOR GAY? problem. I win. Skeletor is mega queer (no offense to you gay people out there).

[Hiltz]

Skeletor's former name was Keldor.

In a battle against the King of Eternia, Keldor's face was badly thrashed and he seeked out the help of an evil mystical spirit that restored him from his weakened state but at a big sacrifice, the flesh of Keldor's head. Now Keldor's entire head shows his skull and he since took on the name of Skeletor, hence his skeletal appearence. The rest of his body is bone,muscle, and flesh.

Skeletor is the worst and most pathetic type of villain. He wants to rule over Eternia yet he failed in every single evil scheme he waged against the Eternia heroes. He tends to sit on his throne and bark orders at his minions who he treats like crap.

[Lexar]

Garland in FF1 is also badass, because he will supposedly 'knock you down'. That's gotta count, right?

Oh and CATS is bad-ass too.

[gmpilot]

Following pofo...a quickie:
http://img81.echo.cx/img81/1295/skeletor8fkdone4yw.jpg

[Serge]

For Me it is Either Wagner From Front Mission 4 or (Sombody Comes up and stabs me because they know what I'm Going to say).

Resons:
1.Says stupid things like "We meet again Durandal for the last time. That saying went out of style a long time ago.

[The Bran Eating Zombie]

I would have to give my vote to Herr Starr from Preacher. He is completely malevolent, evil and uncaring. He'll kill anyone and sacrifice anything to accomplish his goals, and while most villans have some level where you can see hopes for things like redemption, or some sort of nobility behind their goals, any time it seems like that with Starr he manages to become even more insane and evil.

I can't get into too much else without worrying about giving away spoilers, but he is the perfect villian.


Unless you count the Saint of Killers, but he's not so much evil, as he is like death personified, but completely full of hate. The main point with him is that he could beat everyone mentioned in this thread at the same time singlehandedly. But I still see him as more of a force then a villian. So Starr still gets my vote.

[Tanalius]

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/xeno/xenosaga/themes/albedo(lord-of-shadow).jpg

Albedo- He rips off his own head to scare little girls.
And he also wants to end all the godamn cinimatics! ITS A VIDEO GAME NOT A MOVIE RAWR!

[FigureFour]

I'm going to second the nomination of Herr Starr.

And I'll second the assertion that The Saint can kill ANYONE.

[Spider Edge]

I give the Joker props for killing Jason Todd (second robin) and making batgirl into a cripple.
I give Bane props because I heard he shattered batmans spine. And last but not least

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Spideredge/theshredder.jpg
Lol be it in comics, cartoons or the live movie. This 80s created villian made you hate his guts throughout the early 90s. Every now and then New York gets a samurai crime lord, and the shredder was the greatest! "Now! I'll finish what I started with yo ear!!!!!!"

[Elani]

I'd vote for the Joker as well. I mean, he's SUCH a sick bastard! Most people think he's just a grinning idiot but read the novelizations you'll see he's really insane.
Oh yes, and evil too.

he tortures people. and thinks its funny.

[Aires]

Albedo? Badass? Sure he liked to feel up little children and toy robots, but albedo was a crybaby and a drama queen. Sorry his take on insanity, hatred, and power doenst make him a badass, he was just pathetic

[FigureFour]

I still say that the Saint of Killers can outbadass anyone here.

He's a completly indestructable cowboy wielding two colt .45 revolvers forged from the sword of the angel of death, and enchanted by Satan himself so that "Their hammers shall never fall on empty chambers, no shot they fire shall miss their mark and no wound they deliver shall be less then fatal."

All he does is kill everyone he meets.

How can you get more badass?

[Wyrmslayer]

I still say that the Saint of Killers can outbadass anyone here.

He's a completly indestructable cowboy wielding two colt .45 revolvers forged from the sword of the angel of death, and enchanted by Satan himself so that "Their hammers shall never fall on empty chambers, no shot they fire shall miss their mark and no wound they deliver shall be less then fatal."

All he does is kill everyone he meets.

How can you get more badass?

...

I dont think you can.

[FigureFour]

Exactly. I'd explain in detail just how badass he is, but you'll have to go and read Preacher instead.

Trust me, I'm doing you people a favor.

[Wyrmslayer]

I will go look this up now.

Thank you.

[FigureFour]

It's only one of the best comics ever written.

[Cruiser18]

Maybe not badass as in "I can blow you all away with a single shot from my ass", but I always liked the badguy Dr. Desty Nova from BattleAngel Alita. This dude has become immortal in the later stages of the comic, using nanobots to store his genetic information and memmories in the airmolecules around him so he can be restored if his body is killed.
He practices what he describes as "Conquering his karma" and to do so he take people apart in the most insane ways on operating tables with a big confident smile and put them back together with a big healthy dose of technology implemented if needed.
He himself is relativly physically weak, but he utilises a diverse group of minions, including cyborg ninjas, walking bombs and some lightly dressed femme fatales who is sure to entertain you in more than one way.
He himself uses some different kinds of pistols as well as using hacking traps to stop opponents himself.
Oddly enough, despite him being quite sick in a well-functioning way, he sometimes ends up as Alita's allie as well as her enemy since he is not the only enemy around and he usually has some kind of solution and/or explanation to every problem that could arise.

Sure he is a char to experience, although it takes some time before his char to become truly revealed in the series.
Reading BattleAngel Alita can only be recommended :D

Dr. Desty Nova
http://www.maxroyo.com/tuto/dessin/gunnm.jpg

[FigureFour]

Jesus Christ! I love Desty Nova!

Unfortunatly, he's only a villain for a small chunk of the series.

Also, it's "ally."