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Dante-eleon
04-29-2005, 07:03 PM
Gosh it has been a while since if been here (havent had much time and been addicted to W.O.W!) but i am at present completing this piece for school. I need help with the colour of the black hole (and blue stuff around it) and perhaps some ideas into colours for the glaxy/nebula when i get to it. Oh yeah i was goign to put in an another planet being sucked in to the B.H.... Should i?

here it is: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17778511/

P.s if interested i have other planet scenes in my gallery.........still a beginer tho!!!

clintrussell
04-29-2005, 08:07 PM
WOW


That is awesome.
The coloring is magnificent :eek: :D

Dante-eleon
04-29-2005, 08:25 PM
LOL thanks, definately my best comment ever! still would love help on colour choices.

FigureFour
04-29-2005, 08:42 PM
I don't want to be a dick or anything, but black holes don't have colour.

They absorb all light.

You know, gravity and all that . . .


However, if you are looking for pictures of a nebula, look for NASA photos from the Hubble. They are all over the internet, and are bloody beautiful.

gmpilot
04-29-2005, 08:44 PM
yeah, the best ways I've seen black holes portrayed is basically a long trail from a sun veering off into a spiral to nothingness.

Christian
04-29-2005, 09:41 PM
my friend dante-eleon! why try to fly when you haven't mastered walking yet, do you know how difficult it is to portrai something that you can't see.

But on the colours - they are vibrant and lifely, the light sources on the fron planet indicates that it is part of a solor system with a near sun.... thats all the advice i can give you, due to my lack of knowledge to that subject SPACE.

Oh btw, i too PLAY WoW it owns.... i might draw my lvl 17 warrior tauren in the B&W forum(maybe)

Sparet odinman
04-29-2005, 10:18 PM
Pretty damned sweet.... i like it ... but yea bout the black whole thing... they have no color... you should maybe use black with a mix of gray ... maybe try the smudge tool if ur using photoshop... and for the nebula i agree go to nasa.com and look up some pics they have great pics.

well looks good so far keep it up....

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Dante-eleon
04-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Thanks u all for the comments,
Christian - Unfortunately i know what i see, but being techincally correct is another matter. I am not flying nor walking i am trying!
I will look up some nebuals or try and see what comes naturally. and W.O.W is so good and i and others would love to see ur picture!!

The black hole thing well i wasnt going to post it black (i choose blue) because it is easier to see lol. Well ill re-post in the distant future and take on board all that has been said- thanx again Dante!

P.s thanx also sparet for your comments!

johnfields
04-30-2005, 09:24 AM
OK here goes.. yes IN a black hole all is Black -ergo the name black hole, however matter that is being sucked into the maw would have substance and be visable! Einstienien logic states there would be a red shift as they near the speed of light. Black holes excert so much gravity they will bend light as it pulls it into it. In theory all you would see is a lot of smears stretching into the center of the black hole
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BTW this is some good shit dude! keep it up and never listen to the nay sayers !
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Eric87
04-30-2005, 06:10 PM
I'd put that dusty-gassy stuff coming off of Mars (the mightiest of planets) being sucked in, to give the effect that the black hole (or wormhole, or whatever) is actually sucking it in. Right now it gives more of an outward effect, like a sun exploding. Granted, equally dangerous, but apparently not what you were going for.

That's my non-scientific two cents.

Dante-eleon
04-30-2005, 09:43 PM
LOL Johnfields thanks rof that more scientific response and link it will prove to be helpfull!
Eric took me a couple of reads to understand what u where saying lol but that seems like a logical thing to do! ill try to improve it, 4 days till hand in (lucky its for school and i can make up some mumbo jumbo!) ill post it again when more refined thanks again to all! -Dante

johnfields
05-01-2005, 05:57 PM
I'm really not that smart I just what Discovery Channel too damn much:shock: LOL Johnfields thanks rof that more scientific response and link it will prove to be helpfull!
Eric took me a couple of reads to understand what u where saying lol but that seems like a logical thing to do! ill try to improve it, 4 days till hand in (lucky its for school and i can make up some mumbo jumbo!) ill post it again when more refined thanks again to all! -Dante
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gmpilot
05-01-2005, 06:14 PM
The first actual viewing of the effects of a black hole occured in 1987 by distortion of light coming from a star as it passed in front of it. Go look it up..I'm too lazy to do so myself. Second, I'm not quite sure where johnfields got this whole as things approach the speed of light there's a red shift...I've definitely taken physics and astronomy and in both places I've only heard of red shifts occurring which particles are moving away from you, according to the lengthening of wavelength...? When you approach the speed of light there is an increase in mass according to e=mc^2 but that's all I can think of. Oh, also, technically you never see any particles enter an event horizon. The moment a particle is supposed to enter, time stops. Weird shit. Oh, and also, Dante, keep in mind the event horizon is the point at which light cannot escape from the gravity so beyond that point nothing is seen. I believe earth's is a couple of centimeters, lol.

tiyo konching
05-02-2005, 05:59 AM
cool kip it up

johnfields
05-03-2005, 12:54 PM
I got it from Einstien, and Hawking. not directly of course.The first actual viewing of the effects of a black hole occured in 1987 by distortion of light coming from a star as it passed in front of it. Go look it up..I'm too lazy to do so myself. Second, I'm not quite sure where johnfields got this whole as things approach the speed of light there's a red shift...I've definitely taken physics and astronomy and in both places I've only heard of red shifts occurring which particles are moving away from you, according to the lengthening of wavelength...? When you approach the speed of light there is an increase in mass according to e=mc^2 but that's all I can think of. Oh, also, technically you never see any particles enter an event horizon. The moment a particle is supposed to enter, time stops. Weird shit. Oh, and also, Dante, keep in mind the event horizon is the point at which light cannot escape from the gravity so beyond that point nothing is seen. I believe earth's is a couple of centimeters, lol.
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gmpilot
05-03-2005, 03:21 PM
Whatever source you got it from, your middleman screwed it up, or you misinterpreted it.

eightate8
05-03-2005, 04:10 PM
If I remember correctly red-shift is used to determine the approximate distance of stars as the wavelengths tend to separate as they travel great distances. As far as what you would actually see, I don't know. Anyway though Dante are you going for a really accurate rendering or kind of a sci-fi fantasy version? I would guess the latter in which case some artistic license is warranted. Some exaggeration of actual scientific principles will help a lot though as those who know something about physics and astronomy will be interested too.

eightate8
05-03-2005, 04:40 PM
Okay so I was just curious about all of this and did some quick research, apparently based on Hawkings theories of black holes emitting radiation they would glow slightly. It also mentions the red shift caused by gravitational pullnot necessarily the approach towards lightspeed. Anyways here is the site: http://www.wonderquest.com/black-holes.htm
it also has a little picture which you might be interested in.