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cappsdragon
06-11-2005, 07:41 PM
There a thread for under rated games, but what about the games every one wanted that sucked???

Like Halo and Halo2 I played them and thought it were a little overly hyped.
also I think Twisted Metal (3-whatever was the last one sucked), the frist two I liked. It was new, GTA vice city is one I don't like much ethier.

Hiltz
06-11-2005, 07:44 PM
Lol, Halo was "overly hyped" because at the time you could literally count Xbox's best games on one finger.

Snowfox
06-11-2005, 08:00 PM
Kingdom Hearts.

And probably Kingdom Hearts 2. It's already pushing on the edge of over hyped, and it's not even out yet.

Zabur
06-11-2005, 09:04 PM
Here it goes:
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 10-2
Final Fantasy 11
Kingdom Hearts
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andres
Halo
Halo 2

And a whole lot more that I can't think of at the time.

Drevay
06-11-2005, 10:26 PM
Here it goes:
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 10-2
Final Fantasy 11
Kingdom Hearts
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andres
Halo
Halo 2

And a whole lot more that I can't think of at the time.
Ohhh, you be steppin' on San Andreas? Yo' step back yo'. Step back o' I'ma popacap in yo' white ayuss.

Seriously, I ****ing loving San Andreas. A pox upon thee! Also, Halo was alright, really. I found the story to be pretty good and the gameplay not bad - Halo 2 though, wow, I haven't even bothered to finish it yet (will eventually).

cappsdragon
06-11-2005, 10:57 PM
GTA: San Andres I like this one to just all the other GTA's I don't like.

Yeef
06-11-2005, 11:14 PM
Zelda: OOT
Zelda: Majora's Mask
Zelda: Windwaker
I'm sure Twilight Princess will be overrated as well.

The Star Ocean games are pretty overrated as well.

Of course the biggest offender is WoW.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-12-2005, 12:44 AM
You forgot Final Fantasy 7.

And I second Kingdom Hearts and Halo.

Doom 3 is definetly on the list.

I can't think of more, I don't play many bad games.

hezzart
06-12-2005, 02:13 AM
Pfff, the only overated games I can think off now are Halo and Halo2. Very very very overrated.

Gaara
06-12-2005, 04:28 AM
F you bran...


I don't understand the Halo overhype thing, I never heard of Halo ever, then one day played it, and it was really fun. Then played all the time tons of players and all that, so much fun, and I'd never even heard of the game. Halo 2, I new it was coming, played it, got what I expected, a great shooter good for hours of multiplayer fun.

bigyellowlegoman
06-12-2005, 04:37 AM
Zelda: Majora's Mask

I dunno 'bout in America, but over here that one passed by without anyone noticing. Well, at least I don't remember it being very popular.

Overrated games? All the tomb raider games, though I really enjoyed playing the second one. The rest were dog poop.

Snowfox
06-12-2005, 04:38 AM
Ever since the beginning of Halo for the PC it was being hyped as the next Tribes and a revolution for teamplay and FPS in general, which it was neither.

Cian
06-12-2005, 07:02 AM
GTA: SA, totally overhyped.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-12-2005, 07:25 AM
If you didn't hear anything about Halo I can only assume you lived under various large rocks. I was hearing about it since like, 1998.

Izzy/K
06-12-2005, 07:41 AM
I never heard of Halo either...http://polykarbonbbs.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif until someone bought it for my birthday
KH overhyped? its not even talked about...KH2 I can understand from E3.... I dont think FF7 was over-hyped, but FFX, X-2, XI, and XII definately are

Yeef
06-12-2005, 08:25 AM
we're not talking about overhyped, we're talking about overrated.

Overrated games? All the tomb raider games, though I really enjoyed playing the second one. The rest were dog poop.I don't know anyone who's admitted to liking any of those after the secnd; and even for the first two I don't know anyone who thinks they were masterpieces.

Bloodstar
06-12-2005, 09:16 AM
Zelda: OOT No it wasn't. That was a great game, and I don't care what any of you have to say.

Yeef
06-12-2005, 09:41 AM
Clearly you do care or you wouldn't have responded.

Logic has bestest you again, old bean!

Bloodstar
06-12-2005, 09:53 AM
I meant I didn't care what any of you had to say after I responded. So HA.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-12-2005, 10:04 AM
Again, you wouldn't have responded if you didn't care.

But yeah, OOT was ****ing great, but considering how many people call it like, the greatest video game ever made, I would have to agree it's a bit overrated in that regard. It's still ****ing incredible though.

bigyellowlegoman
06-12-2005, 10:11 AM
I don't know anyone who's admitted to liking any of those after the secnd; and even for the first two I don't know anyone who thinks they were masterpieces.

I remember reading the official playstation magazine's reviews.
Tomb raider 3: 10/10
Tomb Raider 4: 10/10
Tomb raider chronicles: 9/10
Angel o' Darkness: 8/10

I remember TR: Chronicles, there was a level set in Ireland! Yay! It was utterly crap and racist. Honestly, Venice may have canals and boats, Alaska may have snow and ice, but for the last fcuking time, there are no imps or ghosts or headless horsemen in Ireland!

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-12-2005, 10:22 AM
I saw some after leaving the pub.

Hiltz
06-12-2005, 10:28 AM
Shenmue
Splinter Cell : Pandora Tomorrow
(The soon to be) Shadow the Hedgehog - watch out he's got a gun!

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-12-2005, 10:30 AM
Pandora Tomorrow is not over-rated.

It's ****ing incredible. You can't just list all the popular games and call them over-rated, some of them deserve it.

mofo09
06-12-2005, 10:31 AM
what about fable

and i do believe zelda:OOT IS the best game ever

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-12-2005, 10:43 AM
Fable was really overhyped, but it seemed like most people realized it sucked when it came out though, and that it didn't really deliver on what it promised.

Alucard1515
06-12-2005, 11:02 AM
Overrated games? All the tomb raider games, though I really enjoyed playing the second one. The rest were dog poop.
Bullshit.

Everyone loved Tomb Raider when it came out, and it got justifiably great reviews. It did something that was really new in games, by letting you explore every nook and cranny of a 3d world, and moved the puzzle-solving, adventure games into full 3d. Then, something happened.

It became insanely popular, the game started to become oversaturated, they made too many games EXACTLY the same, they started focusing on the main character instead of the gameplay (I always thought she was a fugly looking game model). There was a backlash, because anything popular is dumb! The first two games were amazing, and I enjoyed some things about the third, and I started to lose interest by the fourth game. But the games were really good, did some new things that lots of other games built on, it's just crazy how people try to rewrite game history and act like the series was always some piece of garbage. It's dated NOW, but when it game out it blew everyone away.

I think the new game they're working on will improve on the gameplay and introduce enough changes to make the game worth playing again. At the very least, Lara doesn't look like shes on crack anymore.

Fable was really overhyped, but it seemed like most people realized it sucked when it came out though, and that it didn't really deliver on what it promised.
I wouldn't say it sucked, but it definitely didn't live up to expectations. I was expecting a mind blowing RPG, but instead got a really deep action game.

Shou
06-12-2005, 11:59 AM
ya tomb raider was totally revolutionary. Both in gameplay and especially level design. Those aztec and collesium levels had a permanent impact on me. Today TR1 is an underrated game, mainly because so many people who never played it when it was released just lump it together with the new ones. It was weird, first the game got incredibly popular due to new 3d gameplay, then as the popularity grew so did laras popularity since she was taking the role of a hero that they would normally make a guy character for, then popularity grew more and she became more known as a video game sex symbol than anything else which screwed the series. I also enjoyed TR2 but not as much as TR1. After TR2 though I lost interest because of the frustrating controls and as al stated they started being more concerned with lara over other things, the controls were acceptable when the first game came out but as time went on the controls became outdated but they still never changed them. AOD was blasted by reviewers because it still used the same controls, the average score was like 6.5

Aires
06-12-2005, 12:13 PM
Hmmm.

The Resident Evil Series would be considered overated. They are fun, and they are good, but not a pillair of gaming.

cappsdragon
06-12-2005, 01:44 PM
Halo 2, I new it was coming, played it, got what I expected, a great shooter good for hours of multiplayer fun.

That is all it has multiplayer fun time.

big mutha tuckers around here is over rate, and all most all the StarWars games were even though a few were decent games. Tony Hawks underground 2 is the biggest ripe off ever, everquest (the new one), any poke'mon game after red & blue. The sims was overrated, but addicting!!!
I played for weeks apond weeks.

Izzy/K
06-12-2005, 07:23 PM
sims are definately overrated but addictive. But Roller Coaster Tycoon was much more addicting to me. Roller Coaster Tycoon may have been 3D, but it slowed the hell outta my computer, and not to mention the slow crappy AI in that game....

I didnt like any Tomb Raider games, at all, Fable just bored the hell out of me, Tony Hawks Underground 2 WAS a rip-off....and...hahaha pokemon....I remember I used to collect those cards and each versions....but now there are just too many, and way too quickly.... I sure as hell hope they stop making Yu gi oh games

Halo and Halo 2 were definately mostly Multiplayer fun.
I think Turok was overrated when it came out for Xbox, I didnt really like it much

Naota
06-12-2005, 08:35 PM
How about Diablo anyone? Too many people are obssesed with that game, and base their internet screen names off of it: like, Diablo61372. LOL!! Isn't it supposed to get old in like...a month?

Bloodstar
06-12-2005, 09:06 PM
Hey, I take offense to that screen name thingy. I assume your talking about Diablo II? The reason people are so obsessed with it is because its a great game that's addictive and has plenty of replay value. I myself played it for like three or four years. It was a good game and sold like 3 million copies not long after it came out. It wasn't overrated.

Yeef
06-12-2005, 09:25 PM
Too many people are obssesed with that game, and base their internet screen names off of it: like, Diablo61372I hope you realize Diablo is Spanish for 'devil'

Bloodstar
06-12-2005, 09:32 PM
That too.

Kwiix
06-12-2005, 10:49 PM
Doom 3 is definetly on the list.



I agree. All that hype for a game that got real boring real fast. It does look pretty when you're not in the dark though.

UT2003. All that hype for a game that was just a big beta test that cost $40. Glad we could help them make UT2004. Funny...

*_*flashies*_*
06-12-2005, 11:36 PM
I believe that UT2004 was waaay underhyped (at least from what i heard)
UT2004 is an awesome game. Doom 3 sucks craploads, worst gameplay ever. I also agree Halo 2 was way overhyped, but i did like the original Halo slightly.

P.S SAN ANDREAS.....isnt bad, but aint my favourite.

Lexar
06-13-2005, 03:50 AM
Any EA game. Especially the need for speed series, and the sports series, but any other random one is also overhyped. .. the sims is an abomination of massive proportions if you consider the amount of people playing it.

Counterstrike: source is overhyped as well, and to some extent the original counterstrike as well, especially in the later days.

Final fantasy games after (and including) FF7 get way to much attention for what they offer to the industry and the market.

OniCloud
06-13-2005, 04:08 AM
Even though I'm a fan of the series I'm gonna agree that most of the Final Fantasy's are over-hyped. Hopefully the new one won't be(no more random battles huzzah).


Zelda: OOT ****in rocked, but I can see how it was over-rated/hyped


San Andreas was somewhat overrated, not a big difference from the last ones, just more things to cause mayhem.
All I can really think of although there's plenty more out there, someone will eventually mention the others.

Ah wait I found RE Code Veronica overrated, sucky characters and storyline. Goddamn stevie was gay. Oh well i got to be chris I was somewhat satified.

Yeef
06-13-2005, 06:58 AM
Code Veronica had a great storyline and contributed a lot to the series' plot as a whole.

OniCloud
06-13-2005, 07:54 AM
Code Veronica had a great storyline and contributed a lot to the series' plot as a whole.

Well true, but for RE it seems like they should've put more work into it, or at least hired better actors.

Yeef
06-13-2005, 08:54 AM
o.0

How so? You must not be very familiar with RE. All of the games have cheezy voice acting and dialogue, it's part of their appeal.

FigureFour
06-13-2005, 07:58 PM
Everyone loved Tomb Raider when it came out, and it got justifiably great reviews.
Incorrect. I hated every Tomb Raider game since I first played them.

Wyrmslayer
06-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Incorrect. I hated every Tomb Raider game since I first played them.

Agreed.

Garbage all of them.

Alucard1515
06-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Yeah, it's almost like I was exaggerating or something...

Anyway, my point is, people act like the game was always hated, and it wasn't. Even if you don't like the games, there's no denying (logically) that it did new things for gaming which influenced countless other games.

Vava2109
06-14-2005, 08:21 AM
I never liked Tomb raider...died before i could even turn Laura Croft. so freakin slow. And for the Playstation, obviously LONG load times...

Shou
06-14-2005, 11:58 AM
a lot of people saying they hated every tomb raider were close to 5 years old at the time it came out... hmm

Snowfox
06-14-2005, 01:53 PM
Haha, yeah...

Gaara
06-14-2005, 02:43 PM
anyone tryed replaying some of those older games recently. I have been playing Quake for a few months, hardest difficulty, terrifying and awesome.

As for the Halo, under a rock thing, sure...I pretty much get a game or two and lose myself in them and could really care less about the gaming industry until another game comes into my brain.

Makkon
06-14-2005, 10:30 PM
And now I shall give my post in diolague form.

1: "dude, that half-life 2 game is so overrated."
2: "have you even played it?"
1: "no..."
2: "and yet you say that hl2 was overrated. why is that?"
1: "because it looks stupid."
2: "have you seen better?"
1: "no, not really..."
2: "This is very interesting. Your brain works in a very peculiar manner. It seems that your standards are so high that even the top of the line award winning game of the years does not please you."
1: "I heard it from a friend!"
2: "and this friend of your's, has he played it?"
1: "I don't think so..."
2: "so why does HE say it's overatted when he has not even tried it himself to have a valid opinion?"
1: "He read it in a magizine."
2: "What magizine?"
1: "I dunno, like... PC gamer or something..."
2: "do you realize that they gave it a 9/10?"
1: "I didn't know that..."
2: "nor did your friend, evidently."
1: "look, why are you on my back all of the sudden? I just said that hl2 is overrated."
2: "I'm sorry, but I tend to get a annoyed by blundering stupidity. If you had actually played the game, I would respect your oppinion. however, seeing as how you did not, your very intelligence must be questioned. You instantly judge a game by what you hear and see from other people when you have not actually experienced it yourself. You blindly agree with whomever you speak with as though they have a 4000 megaton bomb strapped to thier torso. If you jugde a game in such an ingnorant manner as you have now, what does that say about you as a person?"

point made. sorry if I sound angry, but really now... you'd have t have played the damn thing before you can say it's good or not.

Snowfox
06-14-2005, 10:36 PM
Just so you know, PC Gamer rates games by percentages, not ratios. So therefore your story seems fictitious at best. Though I know there are people that stupid out there anyways.

Makkon
06-14-2005, 10:53 PM
I must have been thinking of Game informer. But yes, it was fictionous. it was meerly written to proove a point. :D but probably not a very good point. Small little detail that I run into daily... tends to piss you off after a while.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-14-2005, 11:04 PM
I played Halflife 2. It was over-rated.

Great gameplay. Story was complete shit.

Great gameplay though.

Makkon
06-14-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, at least your oppion is valid because you actually tried it. I agree, though, story was just a bit lacking, but I don't see how that makes a game overrated.

then again, the AI was not as good as they claimed (I, for one, wouldn't mind actually being outsmarted every once in a while) and the graphics -in some aspects- were lacking. but still, that'd be overhyped... right?

FigureFour
06-15-2005, 07:50 PM
Well, at least your oppion is valid because you actually tried it. I agree, though, story was just a bit lacking, but I don't see how that makes a game overrated.

then again, the AI was not as good as they claimed (I, for one, wouldn't mind actually being outsmarted every once in a while) and the graphics -in some aspects- were lacking. but still, that'd be overhyped... right?
Well, all I wanted from the game was for it to make some sense out of Half Life's moronic plot.

It failed miserably.

If people like me think that the game was disappointing then perhaps when people call it "game of the year" we think that people are rating it too highly.


And here's one that will piss people off: Starcraft.
Sure it was good, but it didn't add anything to the RTS genre. It can't even compete with games like Warcraft 3, Dawn of War or Battle for Middle Earth.

Aires
06-15-2005, 08:22 PM
Starcraft is what you put into it, It was fun and had good multiplayer, thats why its acclaimed. Saying that about game thats older than shit is rare.

Another overated game would have to be DOA. Nice tits, but the guys except for the ninjas sucked in the character desgin bit as well as play. It's too easy. And they havent recently done anything new except milking the DOA2 model and working it

Snowfox
06-15-2005, 08:41 PM
DOA isn't overrated. Everyone who plays it practically will admit to you straight out they only play it for the bouncy mammary glands.

Age : 99.

FigureFour
06-16-2005, 10:18 AM
Starcraft is what you put into it, It was fun and had good multiplayer, thats why its acclaimed. Saying that about game thats older than shit is rare.
I'm just saying that the differences between Starcraft and Command and Conquer were next to nothing. Besides, plenty of older games were fun and had good multiplayer. That's not rare at all.

Zabur
06-16-2005, 10:39 AM
Starcraft was not overrated. The reason is because it was and still is the great game (can you tell I like SC yet from my Starcraft thread? lol).

Compared to newer RTS games, the amount of units is has it extremnely limiting, however it plays well with the tactics that are involved to play this game.

I really hated warcraft III. After I beat it, I wished I never bought the game. The multi-player is subpar and hero system is completely bullshit (opinions, remember that ^.^). Compared the Starcraft, Warcraft III was a failed attempt to change the genre.
I can't say anything about adding shit to the RTS genre since Starcraft was the first RTS I played.

As for Half-Life 2, I really enjoyed playing this game. We've been in debates about what is good/bad about this game, and we know each other view points, there is no reason to bring this debate back again.

As for Tomb Raider...I've never play the earlier ones, and the newer ones I've tried I just really didn't like that what-so-ever.

meerkat
06-16-2005, 11:09 AM
Warcraft 3 wasnt bad at all, the hero system was interesting (in some ways).

I agree that Starcraft wasnt overrated, it was a great game, though Im not good at it :/

FigureFour
06-16-2005, 11:53 AM
Starcraft was like any other oldschool RTS.
Also, it involved no strategy at all. It was all about rushes and building fast.

Now Dawn of War actually requires you to choose and outfit your units for handeling different strategic situations and it's requisition point system throws out stupid resource gathering in favour of capturing and holding territory, causeing battle lines and defensive points to form. It feels kind of like a real war.

Cian
06-16-2005, 11:57 AM
Were still waiting for Starcraft:Ghost to come out here. Its continuallly delayed.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-16-2005, 12:07 PM
It's also going to suck.

Cian
06-16-2005, 12:09 PM
It's also going to suck.
That tends to happen to hyped games that are delayed. Driv3r, Angel of Darkness. Those are probably the best examples. Although I do kinda like Driver.

FigureFour
06-16-2005, 12:12 PM
Driver was just GTA Light.

Also, Starcraft: Ghost looked kind of promising. It's not going to be as good as Splinter Cell, but it might not suck moose cock.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-16-2005, 12:14 PM
It looked promising until they decided that they didn't want to make a good game, and stripped everything that looked remotely interesting from it. The way they're doing it now looks retarded.

Cian
06-16-2005, 12:15 PM
Driver was just GTA Light.
You realise Driver started off the free roaming genre in 3D, dont you. Plus it had more than one city, Miami, Nice and Istanbul. GTA doesnt have that, it has Gansta lovin' beetch!

FigureFour
06-16-2005, 12:22 PM
Well, first of all, Driver didn't start shit.
I'm not really sure what you are talking about, as Driver WASN'T a free roaming 3D game. The first one was a simple game about a gettaway driver. The second Driver game seemed to be an obvious attempt to make it more GTA like, but they ****ed it up and just made the same game but now you could get out of your car and run around.

Multiple cities, sure. Whatever. That doesn't make up for being a crappier game.

Shou
06-16-2005, 12:33 PM
Carmageddon came way before driver and let you rome a city freely.

Cian
06-16-2005, 12:37 PM
Well, first of all, Driver didn't start shit.
I'm not really sure what you are talking about, as Driver WASN'T a free roaming 3D game.
What about the Free-Roam mode???

Zabur
06-16-2005, 12:46 PM
Starcraft was like any other oldschool RTS.
Also, it involved no strategy at all. It was all about rushes and building fast.


If this is what you think this game is all about, then you have no idea how to play well. If you want to get a real view on how to play this game multiplayer, then watch some replays/movies of the Korean Pros playing.

Here is a movie of how pros play:
http://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=031RQ1SJB16GN1DN1NLNLE5RHP

This game requires massive amounts of micro/macroing, planned attacks, tactics, and strategy.

Also, read this if the would care to:
http://www.gosugamers.net/features.php?i=a&id=2067

meerkat
06-16-2005, 01:05 PM
Istanbul

The city I live in =)

It really depends on how you play Starcraft, some rely on mass units, some rely on making good stratagies

Zabur
06-16-2005, 01:07 PM
I agree, it al depends on how you want to play.

Starcraft was like any other oldschool RTS.
Also, it involved no strategy at all. It was all about rushes and building fast.

However, saying something like this is shows the you have never really playn in a good multiplayer setting where people actually use strategy and tactics.

Alucard1515
06-16-2005, 01:10 PM
As for Tomb Raider...I've never play the earlier ones, and the newer ones I've tried I just really didn't like that what-so-ever.
That's because you played them after the series had been out for years... Of course you didn't like them because they never changed the gameplay, and everyone else was improving on controls and gameplay in 3d. The reason I think it's not overrated is because everyone is forgetting that Tomb Raider WAS revolutionary when it first came out.

Zabur
06-16-2005, 01:12 PM
Yeah, my point is that I never lived the revolutionary part of it, because I never playn the first few games of the franchise.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-16-2005, 01:14 PM
Starcraft isn't nearly as startigic as something like Myth, or Dawn of War though.

Zabur
06-16-2005, 01:40 PM
I'm not saying it's strategic as those, I've never playn those, however he says it's not strategic at all, which it no true what so ever.

The Bran Eating Zombie
06-16-2005, 01:58 PM
Compared to rts games today though, it's not strategic at all, it's no more strategic then like, warcraft 1. But some stratigy is involved.

Zabur
06-16-2005, 02:01 PM
How are more modern RTS games more strategic?
Can you give an example please?

Vava2109
06-16-2005, 02:35 PM
All the C&C RTS had u use strategy...i know that for sure...modern and older...

Zabur
06-16-2005, 02:37 PM
I asking for and example HOW the use strategy, not a list of games that use strategy.

FigureFour
06-16-2005, 10:34 PM
What about the Free-Roam mode???
It was just the level without any mission. It barely counts as a game. If I wanted to drive a car around the block, I'd drive my car around the block.

However, saying something like this is shows the you have never really playn in a good multiplayer setting where people actually use strategy and tactics.
Or it shows that you can't recognise when I am exadurating. Everything requires SOME strategy, Starcraft didn't require a particularly large amount though.

Myth however had no base building. You won or lost based on how you maneuvered your troops. THAT is strategy.

meerkat
06-17-2005, 03:31 AM
The total war games would be another good example on strategy, you had to use only troops, you had to know which nations to be allies with, which to conquer... etc (rome total war, shogun total war...)

Cian
06-17-2005, 10:49 AM
I have Shogun: Total War, its pretty cool, but I find it gets really boring.

FigureFour
06-17-2005, 01:02 PM
I almost used the Total War series as my example there, but Myth did it first.

Still, the Total War games are bloody awesome.