Anime episode downloads?

[Hiltz]

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Just wondering if people know of websites to download anime using something called direct downloads because I'm clueless with Bittorent. Oh, and preferrably of series that have yet to be released in North America and or in Subs for that matter. BTW,I delete any downloaded episodes within 24 hours anyway if I don't happen to physically own the downloaded material.

I've been trying to find Gungrave and Full Metal Alchemist in sub as well as Scrapped Princess which I've never seen since it has never been released in the U.S. as far as I know of.

[CityRose]

Mm...I don't think that's legal. However, if you did want to see some animes as a preview to see if they're worth buying, some big chain libraries have extensive anime series ranges, or can order things in for you from other libraries. ;)

[Chronos]

well to help you out you could try to download e-donkey from the edonkey2000 (http://www.edonkey2000.com) website.
download it and run it.

*both of these shows are licensed*

click the links and they should appear in your edonkey client

that was all :) I hope this will help you ,other questions? please pm me so we dont have to polute the forum. or sent me an email:mail (vanveenster@gmail.com)

[Tharrick]

It's legal to download unlicensed stuff that's been fansubbed. I've always been a fan of IRC distro-bots, go to #animeone on rizon.net, they have loads. And always unlicenced stuff

[afroXcore]

i go to animesuki.com

Bittorrent isn't that hard anyway, just download the bittorrent file, then open it, select the destination of the file, and wait.

that's it, the hardest part is finding it.

[DN]

It's legal to download unlicensed stuff that's been fansubbed.

Technically, it's not legal to do either, but most people accept that it's ok since most japanese companies won't do much if it's unlicensed. It's sort of an unwritten agreement that respectable fansubbers will stop subbing a series if it gets licensed. However, there are companies in the past that have pushed to have stuff removed even if it wasn't licensed yet.

I really recommend taking the 5 minutes it takes to figure out how to use bittorrent. All you really have to do is install the plugin and then click on bittorrent links.

Oh, and to clarify: I don't care if you talk about unlicensed stuff here, but all licensed shows will get deleted. If you're don't know if it's licensed, you can check here: http://www.animeondvd.com/licenselist/

[Hiltz]

Thanks DynamiteNeon. Thanks guys, I'll try to figure out bittorent then.

[Steasaurus]

that list is for U.S companies... is there any info floating around regarding other places? not that it matters much to me I rarely dl fansubs... when I dl anime it's usually just for making an AMV so it's gotta be clean... I haven't figured out how to rip the stuff of my dvd collection just yet so dl for me is the only source of anime for my AMV's :( if I own the licenced dvd's does that still mean I'm doing wrong by downloading?

[bigyellowlegoman]

My sister's boyfriend downloads a lot of music, and I think he uses edonkey. But I think he said it actually isn't legal, because edonkey uses a loophole where you only download a piece of the album, then download another piece from someone else who is downloading it, they then download a piece from you. I think that's how it works...

[Steasaurus]

if they know it "isn't legal" then why do they do it? If I found out I was doing something illegal I would stop... I fear teh bumbandits in teh prisons :eek2:

[afroXcore]

it just makes doing it feel so much better.

[Hiltz]

There seems to be so many loop holes in the system despite it being actually illegal or considered illegal that people still do it intentionally. Although, that doesn't make it really right. What afroXcore said can also be true for some people. Just because everyone else does it doesn't make it right.

Still, I don't see too much harm in downloading anime that hasn't been liscened into your country since there is no profit to be made at that time. Licensed anime I can see a problem with because instead of people buying the product as a dvd for example they can have the available option of "downloading" it onto their computer and thus not having to pay any money if they were to just buy the dvd or videotape of it even and the company would make a profit off of their product being purchased.

I also don't see a problem with downloading liscenced anime if you happen to also physically own a copy of it. However, that is kind of like nonesense, who would want to download something that they own an orignal copy of? That is unless you'd like to view it in sub or something I guess. In my case whatever I do happen to download and don't physically own I simply delete within 24 hours which is the only honest thing I can justify my actions with.

[Steasaurus]

like I said I only dl anime that I own in order to make AMV's because I don't really know how to rip from my dvd's... I'm assuming using my dvd's would probably be easier(as far as getting subtitle free stuff goes) and faster(as far as getting hold of entire series goes) but I can't do it so dl dl dl... if regular folk don't see anything wrong with people downloading things they already own a physical copy of then hopefully it's not illegal... in which case I'm ok. Phew.

[Hiltz]

According to some Bill Clinton Act you may want to read about it which you can probably find on any anime downloading site. One of the things most of these sites state is what I've mentioned about if you don't own the copy of whatever your downloading then it must be deleted within 24 hours. I don't think anything will happen at all if you exceed this recommended limit but it is better to be safe than sorry.

I still think it is generally considered illegal but this is more like a warning from the owner of the site to you (the downloader) and if you don't follow the warnings then if something does actually happen to you if your somehow caught which is really most likely not going to happen but if you are caught then the website you downloaded from will not be responsible for your actions in the least. Basically, download at your own caution.

[DN]

There's a lot of gray areas, and it really just depends on your comfort levels and their's. At this point in time, Japan is unlikely to force the issue because they still recognize that part of their success here was dependent on those fansubbers.

A lot of anime is NEVER going to get licensed, so is it really wrong to get access to it through other means if there's no other reasonable way to get it? You're not really hurting sales in that case because, again, it's not licensed in English to begin with. It's still technically illegal according to international law, but I personally don't have a problem with it.

I also don't see a problem with downloading liscenced anime if you happen to also physically own a copy of it. However, that is kind of like nonesense, who would want to download something that they own an orignal copy of?

There's one area I find this topic interesting, and that's in the case of tv shows. For example, I recently downloaded a bunch of episodes of the show "Lost." I pay for my cable, so if I had caught it and recorded it before, it would have been fine for me to watch it. Is it wrong for me to download episodes off the internet in this case? Again, the law says no, but to me it seems reasonable since I'm just using the internet to make my viewing easier.

Of course, in all these cases you're going to find people that don't ever pay for anything and just leech off the system, and that's still a valid concern.

[Steasaurus]

That is a good point... people record tv shows all the time, sometimes even movies and it's regarded as okay but by downloading you're breaking laws? They should probably sort out the laws regarding downloads etc. they don't make a lot of sense and if they don't make sense then I'm guessing people know less about them and are more likely to break these laws. Braincheese.

[Naota]

Ok so i tried animesuki.com, and attempted to play a gundam seed destiny clip. It brought me to another site where I had to download the video, and it said it was still a bit torrent site, yet it will not play? I'm confused, I tried it on media player, real player, using the web as a player didn't work, and there is still some kind of error.

Anybody want to give me some ideas on how to fix this?

[Hiltz]

This probably isn't it but you may need to upgrade your video players first.
(real player,windows media player,etc.)

If your still having problems then maybe that website might have a troubleshoot page that lists common problems when downloading with bittorant and how to fix it.

I'm still having too much confusion with bittorent and I also got an error once when trying to play an episode download so I'm just staying with direct downloads since they are so easy to use and figure out the downloads are generally fast.

[DN]

Bittorrent Help:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=11

Playback Help.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=175

It is most likely that you do not have the proper codec installed. Follow the suggestions in those threads.

[Hiltz]

There ya go,when in trouble DynamiteNeon is always there. :D

[CityRose]

I pay for my cable, so if I had caught it and recorded it before, it would have been fine for me to watch it.

One interesting little factoid is that it's not actually legal to record things off the television either. If that's the case, I have no idea what anyone would do with the record button on their VCR. :P Home movies? You have to wonder just how many people back in the 70s owned a camera compared to those who owned a VCR. Wouldn't the sales figures be a little suspicious?
What reeeeeally gets me, if it's illegal to record from the television, is it okay to record from cable tv? You are, after all, paying to view their shows. Aaaaaand, if we're all paying a bloody minimum of $50 a month on cable, why on earth are there commercials??

Some food for thought. ;)

[misterkyo]

What reeeeeally gets me, if it's illegal to record from the television, is it okay to record from cable tv? You are, after all, paying to view their shows. Aaaaaand, if we're all paying a bloody minimum of $50 a month on cable, why on earth are there commercials??

You legally can't record off cable. If you want to do that (nobody usually does), you're supposed to contact the copyright owner. As for commercials, that's how they are able to sell cable. Believe it or not, advertising pays for a large sum of revenue.

[DN]

Hmm, I wonder if the laws are a bit different in Australia, because my understanding is that under fair use laws, you are allowed to record shows for personal use, you're just not allowed to redistribute them. I couldn't find the relevant links though to document that just yet. I'll look around some more later.

[CityRose]

DN: Aha, yes, I've heard of this 'fair use law' but to my knowledge it's an American law. I've never heard anything about that here. Or I could just be uninformed. But I'm pretty sure that the original laws still apply- technically you're not legally allowed to record from television, cable or no.

[misterkyo]

Hmm, I wonder if the laws are a bit different in Australia, because my understanding is that under fair use laws, you are allowed to record shows for personal use, you're just not allowed to redistribute them. I couldn't find the relevant links though to document that just yet. I'll look around some more later.

I'm pretty sure there's a copyright convention that most countries are part of. I can't think of the name of it now. It just says there's two levels of ownership-intellectual and (it's not the right term) but "physical" ownership.

If you own the intellectual, you can do what you want with it. Physical means the owner of the intellectual has given you rights to use whatever media it is a certain number of times in a certain number of ways (eg i sell you a painting, you may not reproduce it. I sell you my show, you can play it twice on your channel and no more without shelling out more).

I'd be interested in those links, i could very well be wrong.