Go Back   Polykarbon Art Forum > GALLERY > Sketchbooks
Register FAQ Members List Arcade IRC Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-09-2010, 01:14 PM   #1
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default Phl's sketchbook of stuff.

Since this is an all new approach to art for me, I chose to create a new sketchbook I hope peeps won't mind . I will start to post my paintings here instead of in the wip section.

What I'm currently drawing is not an octopi! :O It's a chimp. For whatever reason.

Here's the ref :



And here's the drawn thing :



Now I know the "expression" isn't exactly the same (it seems like he's looking at us instead of in front of himself) and the fur is just.... AUUUGH!!! Fur. You know. Not cool to paint. C&C more than welcome.
__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook


Last edited by Phl : 09-21-2011 at 07:34 PM. Reason: Painting was not accurate enough.
Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2010, 02:18 PM   #2
thoraxglycerin
I'm a hell of a warmonger
 
thoraxglycerin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sometimes her, sometimes there, soo.... everywhere?
Posts: 208
Send a message via MSN to thoraxglycerin
Default

you need other brushes, my dear friend.
Someone help him with this please, i don't know anything about brushes and making them in photoshop & co
__________________
If you think i'm worthy of your time, so please do some sketch exchanges with me.
It would be my utmost pleasure to practice with you.
And this is my sketchbook.
http://www.polykarbonbbs.com/showthread.php?t=25865
thoraxglycerin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2010, 02:34 PM   #3
Red Hot Hoshi
赤い星が熱くないよ!
 
Red Hot Hoshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,591
Send a message via AIM to Red Hot Hoshi Send a message via Yahoo to Red Hot Hoshi Send a message via Skype™ to Red Hot Hoshi
Default

AFAIK, Phl uses Mypaint on Ubuntu 10.04, so photoshop brushes are out. IMO he should just build the GIT version of mypaint which comes with more/better brushes.

Though what's wrong with using a hard round brush?
__________________
"millions of people die of art-attacks every single year." - Crayonblood
Red Hot Hoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2010, 03:06 PM   #4
thoraxglycerin
I'm a hell of a warmonger
 
thoraxglycerin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sometimes her, sometimes there, soo.... everywhere?
Posts: 208
Send a message via MSN to thoraxglycerin
Default

if hes wants to recreate the fur, he needs a special brush. Just look at the ref for the fur, you'll see what i mean.
__________________
If you think i'm worthy of your time, so please do some sketch exchanges with me.
It would be my utmost pleasure to practice with you.
And this is my sketchbook.
http://www.polykarbonbbs.com/showthread.php?t=25865
thoraxglycerin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2010, 04:35 PM   #5
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

Yeah I mean, I COULD use photoshop, but it would mean going in my windoze partition.
__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2010, 05:11 PM   #6
Red Hot Hoshi
赤い星が熱くないよ!
 
Red Hot Hoshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,591
Send a message via AIM to Red Hot Hoshi Send a message via Yahoo to Red Hot Hoshi Send a message via Skype™ to Red Hot Hoshi
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thoraxglycerin
if hes wants to recreate the fur, he needs a special brush. Just look at the ref for the fur, you'll see what i mean.
This is completely untrue. You can paint the fur with a round brush. Keyword here, though, is "can", meaning it is possible. I never said it was practical. IMHO all the special brushes are almost to the point of cheating.

There are two fur brushes in mypaint-git though.
__________________
"millions of people die of art-attacks every single year." - Crayonblood
Red Hot Hoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2010, 06:38 PM   #7
hakushi_304
Karbonite
 
hakushi_304's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 253
Default

Brushes are just a means to an end :p tools don't make you a better artist, you can have all the "cheating" brushes but if you can't draw, all the cool brushes in the world isn't gonna help much.

Anyways, I did another quick paintover, instead of focusing on textures, I focused on the larger planes of the face, I simplified it, broke it down and only used hints of strokes to suggest fur. I also tried to stay loose and big. This is especially good practice because it forces to you look past the overlaying textures and straight to the form.

Part of the issue is also the fact that you're using such a high contrast image, there is no chance for modeling form because it's washed out by strong light, strong shadows.

This is definitely great practice though, and for the most part I think you just need to familiarize yourself to painting

I would start with something less complicated to start off with creating form and shadow three dimensionally.



This is an old study I did when I was tutoring someone awhile back, about the basics of brush technique and how to render form. Hope this helps!

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Eggrender.jpg
__________________
BLOGSPOT
hakushi_304 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 06:55 AM   #8
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

[Edit2] Almost forgot ; Thanks Hakushi for taking the time to do a paintover for me. I appreciate greatly.

I'll rework the chimp and the octopi later for now, I'm trying out the egg :P. I found a picture I liked and I will start working on it.

[EDIT] i'll post the pic :

__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook


Last edited by Phl : 08-10-2010 at 07:26 AM.
Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 08:28 AM   #9
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

Alright, been working on it for about 20 minutes :

__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 03:12 PM   #10
thoraxglycerin
I'm a hell of a warmonger
 
thoraxglycerin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sometimes her, sometimes there, soo.... everywhere?
Posts: 208
Send a message via MSN to thoraxglycerin
Default

then i'm sorry.
Also, nice ref taking phl, continue it.
__________________
If you think i'm worthy of your time, so please do some sketch exchanges with me.
It would be my utmost pleasure to practice with you.
And this is my sketchbook.
http://www.polykarbonbbs.com/showthread.php?t=25865
thoraxglycerin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 06:06 PM   #11
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

No worries about that thoraxglycerin, not your fault. :P

I will continue it and I already have. But I can't post it for now, I'm in windoze.

[EDIT] Didn't want to double post so I'll post my speedpaint in edit mode.

I challenged myself to do a monster speedpaint because I had just read a particular magazine before and it had put me in the monster mood. I thumbnailed a couple 'o stuff with a random brush (it turned out really more textured than I thought but I had decided to take only one brush for the painting so I did) before deciding for the weird flying thingy eating his tail. It reminded me of the ourobouros. Granted, mine has "wings" and talons so it's not a serpent but it still reminded me of it. (Must be the whole eating-your-own-tail thing). Now I know there is many wrongs in this image. Please point me to them specifically. I know I must work on lightning, anatomy and the like.

Whatever I'm not gonna rant more... it's already too long a post ; i'll just post the thumbnails and the monster speedpaint. Oh and by the way, I took one hour exactly.



Thumbnails. Maybe I should've gone with the sphere with spidery legs. More simple a form and I could've focused more on the "anatomy" and lightning of it. Maybe i'll do it next.

And the painting :



Critics and comments appreciated of course (else I probably wouldn't post it here... =D)
__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook


Last edited by Phl : 08-10-2010 at 08:05 PM.
Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 09:00 PM   #12
Shin
Crit you for over 9000 !
 
Shin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 447
Default

Woo, nice studies keep it up!
in my personal experience, photoshop is THE tool to use. This is after a year of using opencanvas which is nice but vastly limited compared to photoshop. I recommend changing over while you're still fresh. Tools don't necessarily make you a better artist, but they can help you create better art.
__________________
deviousdeviant
Shin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2010, 05:55 AM   #13
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

My speedpainting was done using photoshop. I find that it works okay when I have a larger screen than just my laptop or else I feel all cramped up.
__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2010, 07:18 AM   #14
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

I had time this morning and took one hour to refine the concept of the spidery-legged monster.

__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2010, 08:35 AM   #15
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

Hey guys, I've got a new egg for you! (In fact, it's for practice so it's much more useful to me than to you, but I'd like to get some critics :P) It's not completely done. (How can you know when it is?) And i'll be working on it during the day.

Reference picture :



Basic version of the egg :



Reworked version :



[EDIT]: Damn they are big!
__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2010, 11:30 AM   #16
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

Now updated :

__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2010, 04:43 PM   #17
Phl
Clang-Klang!
 
Phl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Quebec
Posts: 776
Send a message via AIM to Phl Send a message via MSN to Phl Send a message via Skype™ to Phl
Default

I don't know if i'm going to continue working on this egg, I feel it's about what I can do best for now. I've been doing a couple of touch ups, adding texture, hardening the edges of the egg and all. Here it is :

__________________
Woo!
My DeviantArt account
My Sketchbook

Phl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2010, 06:47 AM   #18
thoraxglycerin
I'm a hell of a warmonger
 
thoraxglycerin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sometimes her, sometimes there, soo.... everywhere?
Posts: 208
Send a message via MSN to thoraxglycerin
Default

well you've improved very fast, it's really detailed.
With time you can be more photorealistc, while drawing more and more.
If it's one of your goals. Other than that, improve, improve, improve!
__________________
If you think i'm worthy of your time, so please do some sketch exchanges with me.
It would be my utmost pleasure to practice with you.
And this is my sketchbook.
http://www.polykarbonbbs.com/showthread.php?t=25865
thoraxglycerin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2010, 11:58 AM   #19
Professor Az
TK-85650
 
Professor Az's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: South of the Dune Sea
Posts: 2,933
Default

Nice updates. I like the way you are working up the details on the surface the egg is resting on, as well as the texture of the shell. Keep it up.
__________________
"No good deed goes unpunished." - Clare Booth Luce
Professor Az is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2010, 09:48 PM   #20
Meatloaf
Brett
 
Meatloaf's Avatar
Awards Showcase
1st Place:  - Issue reason: Horror Fest '08 Phase 1 2nd Place:  - Issue reason: Movie Poster Contest '08 3rd Place:  - Issue reason: New Year '07 3rd Place:  - Issue reason: Video Game Sequential Contest '07 3rd Place:  - Issue reason: LEGO Illustration Contest '11 
Total Awards: 5
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 2,155
Send a message via MSN to Meatloaf
Default

Last egg looks good. I'd recommend trying a ref with some harder shadows and see how you do. Right now everything seems to have a really soft, gradation feel to it. maybe look into something mechanical for a change of pace.
__________________
http://artbmc.com
Meatloaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:21 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.